{"podcast":{"title":"Okay, But... Birds","slug":"okay-but-birds-7584311","podcast_index_feed_id":7584311,"rss_url":"https://feeds.captivate.fm/okaybutbirds/","website_url":"https://okaybutbirds.com","image_url":"https://artwork.captivate.fm/82139d43-3207-4d7f-937c-632349305d2e/OBB-Artwork-2026.png","author":"Dr. Scott Taylor","episode_count":30,"summary":"Hosted by evolutionary biologist Dr. Scott Taylor, Okay, But... Birds explores the drama, brilliance, and science behind bird life. Each snackable 30-minute episode blends smart storytelling, expert interviews, and a touch of humor to reveal how birds shape our world . No jargon. No binoculars required. Just real science, quirky insights, and bird-brained drama you’ll want to share at brunch. Because birds aren’t background. Birds are cool.","last_synced_at":"2026-07-02T22:17:10.381387+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/okay-but-birds-7584311"},"episode":{"title":"Okay, but what about birds that can't fly?","slug":"okay-but-what-about-birds-that-can-t-fly","published_at":"2026-05-28T11:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/okay-but-birds-7584311/okay-but-what-about-birds-that-can-t-fly","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/okay-but-birds-7584311","url":"https://okaybutbirds.com","audio_url":"https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/5a2aa32f-7879-42a4-8b84-9ade803ce1c1.mp3","summary":"E24. Flight is the thing we associate most with birds, so what does it mean when a lineage gives it up? Dr. Scott Edwards, Harvard, joins Scott to unpack how flightlessness evolves, why it keeps happening across the bird family tree, and what the genome reveals about how a bird loses the ability to fly. In this episode you'll hear about: How losing flight reshapes a bird's body, from feathers to forelimbs to that one famously enormous egg Why the answer wasn't where geneticists expected to find it What an extinct giant and a tiny tropical relative can tell us about where moa actually came from All audio, video, and images in this episode are either original to Okay, But... Birds (© Okay Media, LLC) or used under license/permission from the respective rights holders. Bird media from the Macaulay Library is used courtesy of the Cornell Lab of Ornithology as follows: Falkland Steamer-Duck audio contributed by Maurice A. E. Rumboll, ML4114 Great Tinamou audio contributed by David L. Ross, Jr., ML57320","meta_description":"E24. Flight is the thing we associate most with birds, so what does it mean when a lineage gives it up? Dr. Scott Edwards, Harvard, joins Scott to unpack…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":1970,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/okay-but-birds-7584311/episodes/okay-but-what-about-birds-that-can-t-fly/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/okay-but-birds-7584311/okay-but-what-about-birds-that-can-t-fly.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}