{"podcast":{"title":"Nonfiction Kidlit Craft Conversations","slug":"nonfiction-kidlit-craft-conversations-7100428","podcast_index_feed_id":7100428,"rss_url":"https://feed.podbean.com/kirstenwlarson/feed.xml","website_url":"https://podcast.kirstenwlarson.com","image_url":"https://pbcdn1.podbean.com/imglogo/image-logo/19684646/Nonfiction_Kidlit_Convo_for_Apple_xd883v.jpg","author":"Kirsten W. Larson","episode_count":27,"summary":"Ready to take a deep dive into the craft and business of nonfiction kidlit? In Nonfiction Kidlit Craft Conversations, Kirsten W. Larson, author of ”Reimagining Your Nonfiction Picture Book,” chats with creators of nonfiction new releases about the craft and business of writing nonfiction for children and teens.","last_synced_at":"2026-07-04T06:21:25.205019+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/nonfiction-kidlit-craft-conversations-7100428"},"episode":{"title":"Can A Book Talk Back? Annette Bay Pimentel on Metafiction, Pooh, and Picture Books Ep. 24","slug":"can-a-book-talk-back-annette-bay-pimentel-on-metafiction-pooh-and-picture-books-ep-24","published_at":"2026-07-03T18:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/nonfiction-kidlit-craft-conversations-7100428/can-a-book-talk-back-annette-bay-pimentel-on-metafiction-pooh-and-picture-books-ep-24","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/nonfiction-kidlit-craft-conversations-7100428","url":"https://podcast.kirstenwlarson.com/e/can-a-book-talk-back-annette-bay-pimentel-on-metafiction-pooh-and-picture-books-ep-24/","audio_url":"https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/e42matk8u9xe69tb/Annette_Bay_Pimentel_An_hour_with_Kirsten.mp3","summary":"What happens when a nonfiction picture book refuses to stay in its lane? In this episode of Nonfiction Kidlit Craft Conversations, I talk with Annette Bay Pimentel about her inventive new picture book, How a Bear Became a Book, illustrated by Faith Pray. Together, we explore:📚 Rule-breaking nonfiction🧸 The collaboration behind Winnie-the-Pooh🎨 How words and pictures work together in picture books✍️ Metafiction and informational fiction in children’s literature🔍 Researching book history and literary archives💡 Why critique groups matter for nonfiction writers🖼️ The creative partnership between authors and illustrators Annette shares how this book evolved from a traditional nonfiction biography into an innovative, layered exploration of storytelling itself — complete with a talking Winnie-the-Pooh narrator. We also discuss the creative risks involved in blending nonfiction, metafiction, and picture book craft while staying true to young readers. Whether you’re a children’s author, illustrator, educator, librarian, or nonfiction fan, this conversation is packed with insight into the creative process behind groundbreaking nonfiction picture books. Chapters: 00:00 Introduction: When Nonfiction Breaks the Rules00:58 Meet Annette Bay Pimentel and How a Bear Became a Book02:45 How the Winnie-the-Pooh Story Idea Began05:04 The Draft That Changed Everything: Letting Pooh Speak08:53 Why Critique Groups Matter for Writers11:00 Collaboration, E.H. Shepard, and the Making of Winnie-the-Pooh16:00 Informational Fiction, Metafiction, and “Playing Fair” with Readers20:00 Picture Book Design, Research, and the History of Illustrated Books27:00 Faith Pray’s Illustrations and Solving an “Unillustratable” Manuscript37:49 Back Matter, School Visits, and What Creators Can Learn from Collaborat…","meta_description":"What happens when a nonfiction picture book refuses to stay in its lane? In this episode of Nonfiction Kidlit Craft Conversations, I talk with Annette Bay…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":2712,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/nonfiction-kidlit-craft-conversations-7100428/episodes/can-a-book-talk-back-annette-bay-pimentel-on-metafiction-pooh-and-picture-books-ep-24/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/nonfiction-kidlit-craft-conversations-7100428/can-a-book-talk-back-annette-bay-pimentel-on-metafiction-pooh-and-picture-books-ep-24.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}