{"podcast":{"title":"Neurodiversity Podcast","slug":"neurodiversity-podcast-485169","podcast_index_feed_id":485169,"rss_url":"https://mindmatters.libsyn.com/rss","website_url":"https://www.neurodiversitypodcast.com","image_url":"https://static.libsyn.com/p/assets/e/b/2/0/eb208a34cc84d035e5bbc093207a2619/2022_Neurodiversity_Podcast_Logo_Master_rev_11-04.jpg","author":"Dave Morris","episode_count":322,"summary":"The Neurodiversity Podcast talks with leaders in the fields of psychology, education, and beyond, about positively impacting neurodivergent people. Our goal is to reframe differences that were once considered disabilities or disorders, promote awareness of this unique population, and improve the lives of neurodivergent and high-ability people.","last_synced_at":"2026-06-25T10:20:05.582930+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/neurodiversity-podcast-485169"},"episode":{"title":"Child-Led Support: The Concept of Compromise Over Compliance","slug":"child-led-support-the-concept-of-compromise-over-compliance","published_at":"2026-02-12T22:26:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/neurodiversity-podcast-485169/child-led-support-the-concept-of-compromise-over-compliance","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/neurodiversity-podcast-485169","url":"https://neurodiversitypodcast.com/home/2026/2/12/episode-305-child-led-support-the-concept-of-compromise-over-compliance","audio_url":"https://traffic.libsyn.com/secure/mindmatters/20260212_Neurodiversity_Podcast_Episode_305.mp3?dest-id=643256","summary":"Child-led support is often misunderstood. Some imagine it as a chaotic free-for-all where the child runs the show. Some worry it means abandoning all structure. In reality, a child-led approach is about moving from being a director to being a partner. In this episode, Emily Kircher-Morris sits down with speech-language pathologist Nicole Casey to dismantle the compliance-based models of therapy that have dominated the field for decades. Nicole explains how shifting the focus from \"fixing\" speech to fostering authentic connection creates deeper buy-in and faster generalization of skills. They discuss Gestalt Language Processing (GLP), why we need to stop writing \"80% accuracy\" goals, and how using rubrics can revolutionize the way parents and educators track meaningful progress. TAKEAWAYS Child-led is an approach that centers the child's interests and experiences, removing arbitrary adult-directed rules (like \"sit still\") to prioritize safety, connection, and agency. Speech is just one form of communication, but gestures, hand-leading, and AAC play major roles in communication. Some children learn language in chunks or scripts tied to emotional context. Goals based on 80% accuracy are arbitrary and often measure compliance rather than authentic communication. Using rubrics allows teams to track the quality and autonomy of a skill (e.g., self-advocacy) across different contexts, offering a visual and qualitative way to see growth. Before enforcing a direction, ask, \"Does this rule actually serve the child, or is it just for my convenience?\" The Educator Hub opens the week of February 16! Go here for more info, and if you'd like, you can be alerted the minute it opens. Nicole Casey, MS, CCC-SLP, is a speech-language pathologist, educator, and the founder of The Child-Led…","meta_description":"Child-led support is often misunderstood. Some imagine it as a chaotic free-for-all where the child runs the show. Some worry it means abandoning all stru…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":2142,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/neurodiversity-podcast-485169/episodes/child-led-support-the-concept-of-compromise-over-compliance/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/neurodiversity-podcast-485169/child-led-support-the-concept-of-compromise-over-compliance.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}