{"podcast":{"title":"NerdOut@Spotify","slug":"nerdout-spotify-4978381","podcast_index_feed_id":4978381,"rss_url":"https://anchor.fm/s/805682b0/podcast/rss","website_url":"https://engineering.atspotify.com/","image_url":"https://d3t3ozftmdmh3i.cloudfront.net/production/podcast_uploaded_nologo/21431532/21431532-1643830767908-135761e4b33e2.jpg","author":"Spotify R&D","episode_count":39,"summary":"NerdOut@Spotify is a technology podcast produced by the nerds at Spotify and made for the nerd inside all of us. Hear from Spotify engineers about challenging tech problems and get a firsthand look into what we're doing, what we're building, and what we’re nerding out about at Spotify every day.","last_synced_at":"2026-06-12T02:21:13.571341+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/nerdout-spotify-4978381"},"episode":{"title":"35: How Huel Experiments at Scale: Beyond A/B Tests","slug":"35-how-huel-experiments-at-scale-beyond-a-b-tests","published_at":"2026-05-28T13:34:10+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/nerdout-spotify-4978381/35-how-huel-experiments-at-scale-beyond-a-b-tests","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/nerdout-spotify-4978381","url":"https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/engineeringatspotify/episodes/35-How-Huel-Experiments-at-Scale-Beyond-AB-Tests-e3k11h1","audio_url":"https://anchor.fm/s/805682b0/podcast/play/120669153/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-4-28%2Fc622bf33-a9dd-79dd-f93c-ca407db94089.mp3","summary":"What happens when a seven-person data team restarts an experimentation program from scratch — and gets the whole company running experiments within months? Welcome to the first episode of our special miniseries on product experimentation. Now that you can build almost anything faster than ever, what matters most is learning what to build, what to keep, and what to put back on the shelf. Over the next few episodes, we go beyond A/B testing basics to explore how teams build experimentation culture, move faster with data, and make smarter product bets in practice. Hosting this series are two of Spotify’s finest experimentation nerds: Luke Frake, group product manager for subscriptions, and Mårten Schultzberg, staff data scientist for Spotify’s experimentation platform, Confidence ( confidence.spotify.com ). In this first episode, we head outside Spotify to explore how Huel, the UK-founded nutrition brand, approaches experimentation across a rapidly growing omnichannel business. Unlike pure digital products, Huel sells direct-to-consumer on its own site, on Amazon, in supermarkets, and on TikTok Shop — which means you can't always rely on a classical A/B test to measure what's working. Luke and Mårten are joined by Bhav Patel, Data Director at Huel, to dig into how his lean team rebuilt Huel's experimentation culture from the ground up. They discuss why Huel lets experiment ideas come from anyone and how a founder-led, data-first culture drove strong adoption of experimentation across the entire org. You'll hear how Bhav's team tackles the unique challenges of omnichannel measurement: building synthetic control groups to evaluate TV ads, running geo-lift tests, and stitching together fragmented user data across platforms, plus how AI is fast-tracking experiment design and…","meta_description":"What happens when a seven-person data team restarts an experimentation program from scratch — and gets the whole company running experiments within months…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":2167,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/nerdout-spotify-4978381/episodes/35-how-huel-experiments-at-scale-beyond-a-b-tests/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/nerdout-spotify-4978381/35-how-huel-experiments-at-scale-beyond-a-b-tests.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}