{"podcast":{"title":"Navigating Bitcoin's Noise","slug":"navigating-bitcoin-s-noise-4356332","podcast_index_feed_id":4356332,"rss_url":"https://www.spreaker.com/show/4990519/episodes/feed","website_url":"https://kanemcgukin.substack.com/","image_url":"https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/5750fc3691dbb12625b3c8a5be66d372.jpg","author":"Kane McGukin","episode_count":78,"summary":"Navigating Bitcoin's Noise is a podcast dedicated to bridging the gap between traditional financial markets and crypto markets. In each episode, I look to discuss how monetary technologies like Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies are evolving the underlying rails of the existing financial system.","last_synced_at":"2026-06-25T00:17:03.299477+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/navigating-bitcoin-s-noise-4356332"},"episode":{"title":"EP64 Bitbonds vs Bitcoin-backed notes-Pierre Rochard on the Next Era of Bitcoin Finance","slug":"ep64-bitbonds-vs-bitcoin-backed-notes-pierre-rochard-on-the-next-era-of-bitcoin-finance","published_at":"2025-10-10T14:46:59+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/navigating-bitcoin-s-noise-4356332/ep64-bitbonds-vs-bitcoin-backed-notes-pierre-rochard-on-the-next-era-of-bitcoin-finance","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/navigating-bitcoin-s-noise-4356332","url":"https://www.spreaker.com/episode/ep64-bitbonds-vs-bitcoin-backed-notes-pierre-rochard-on-the-next-era-of-bitcoin-finance--68091091","audio_url":"https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/68091091/ep64_bitbonds_vs_bitcoin_backed_notes_pierre_rochard_pierre_rochard_on_the_next_era_of_bitcoin_finance.mp3","summary":"Welcome to Navigating Bitcoin’s Noise—the show where we cut through the clutter and bring you the clearest insights on Bitcoin. I’m your host, Kane McGukin, and today I’m joined by Pierre Rochard, long-time Bitcoiner and builder whose path runs from Wall Street securitization to Kraken, Riot, and now founding the Bitcoin Bond Company. In this episode, Pierre breaks down the emerging market for Bitcoin-backed notes. We discuss how private credit and declining volatility set the stage for a true Bitcoin yield curve, and what ETFs, custody choices, and KYC/AML realities mean for adoption. We also dig into stablecoins like Tether and their role in dollarization abroad and how that liquidity ultimately strengthens Bitcoin’s financial plumbing. Pierre Rochard: https://x.com/BitcoinPierre Nakamoto Institute: https://nakamotoinstitute.org/ Kane McGukin: https://kanemcgukin.substack.com/ and https://x.com/kanemcgukin","meta_description":"Welcome to Navigating Bitcoin’s Noise—the show where we cut through the clutter and bring you the clearest insights on Bitcoin. I’m your host, Kane McGuki…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":3539,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/navigating-bitcoin-s-noise-4356332/episodes/ep64-bitbonds-vs-bitcoin-backed-notes-pierre-rochard-on-the-next-era-of-bitcoin-finance/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/navigating-bitcoin-s-noise-4356332/ep64-bitbonds-vs-bitcoin-backed-notes-pierre-rochard-on-the-next-era-of-bitcoin-finance.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}