{"podcast":{"title":"My  .4 Cents","slug":"my-4-cents-7378183","podcast_index_feed_id":7378183,"rss_url":"https://feeds.acast.com/public/shows/6850d41f9692e2d8d735af2d","website_url":"https://shows.acast.com/my-point-4-cents-podcast","image_url":"https://assets.pippa.io/shows/6850d41f9692e2d8d735af2d/1751865957516-82d24e4a-c0c8-41e9-9f79-d2a7d343c62c.jpeg","author":"My Point 4 Cents","episode_count":53,"summary":"This is what musicians need to know about the music business today. Every Tuesday, music marketers Matt Bacon, Dustin Boyer, Jesse Cannon, and Andrew Southworth break down what's changed in music marketing and the music business, as well as what's currently changing in the industry. You’ll be surprised what they disagree about! To support the My Point 4 Cents and get a whole extra hour from every episode—including full interviews and ad-free banter—become a subscriber. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.","last_synced_at":null,"page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/my-4-cents-7378183"},"episode":{"title":"How Unknown Artists Chart On Billboard","slug":"how-unknown-artists-chart-on-billboard","published_at":"2025-12-02T05:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/my-4-cents-7378183/how-unknown-artists-chart-on-billboard","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/my-4-cents-7378183","url":"https://shows.acast.com/my-point-4-cents-podcast/episodes/how-unknown-artists-chart-on-billboard","audio_url":"https://sphinx.acast.com/p/open/s/6850d41f9692e2d8d735af2d/e/692e3ad14736f906f9d1cac7/media.mp3","summary":"In this episode, Jesse Cannon, Andrew Southworth, Dustin Boyer, and guest host Olivia Pierce discuss Patreon and the resurgence of artists cultivating communities through apps, emphasizing how these platforms can offer authentic engagement and sustainable income. Then, Dustin Boyer interviews Nashville-based independent artist Ben Schuller, who has successfully built his career on his own terms. Schuller shares insights into how he capitalizes on unconventional routes such as YouTube covers and Nerdcore to make music his full-time occupation. The conversation then shifts to exploring the tactics some groups use to game the Billboard charts, exemplified by a campaign aimed at rallying people to collaboratively create an album and propel it to the top spot, highlighting flaws in chart metrics. Finally, the episode discusses the advantages of artist independence and the evolving music business landscape, questioning traditional industry methods and advocating for innovative approaches for musicians to connect with their audiences. Follow Andrew Southworth @andrew.southworth https://andrewsouthworth.com/ https://www.youtube.com/andrewsouthworth Follow Jesse Cannon  @jessecannon jessecannon.com Follow Dustin Boyer  @dustintheindustryplant  Follow MattBacon @bacons.bits   dropoutmedia.net sapphireeye.net   Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.","meta_description":"In this episode, Jesse Cannon, Andrew Southworth, Dustin Boyer, and guest host Olivia Pierce discuss Patreon and the resurgence of artists cultivating com…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":4322,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/my-4-cents-7378183/episodes/how-unknown-artists-chart-on-billboard/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/my-4-cents-7378183/how-unknown-artists-chart-on-billboard.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}