{"podcast":{"title":"Mountain & Prairie with Ed Roberson","slug":"mountain-prairie-with-ed-roberson-323217","podcast_index_feed_id":323217,"rss_url":"https://mountainandprairie.libsyn.com/rss","website_url":"http://www.mountainandprairie.com/","image_url":"https://static.libsyn.com/p/assets/3/0/4/a/304a8951c4f4e3ab/MP_Main_Reduced.jpg","author":"Mountain & Prairie Media","episode_count":307,"summary":"Long-form conversations with remarkable people connected to the land, communities, and culture of the American West. • For 10+ years, host Ed Roberson has talked with writers, ranchers, scientists, artists, historians, and adventurers. Every episode is substantive, relaxed, and rich with wisdom — offering listeners fresh perspectives and a deeper connection to one of the world's most compelling places. • Past guests include Yvon Chouinard, Kris Tompkins, Nick Offerman, and Sebastian Junger. • Top 0.5% of all podcasts globally. Featured by Patagonia, The Aspen Institute, SXSW, and MeatEater.","last_synced_at":null,"page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/mountain-prairie-with-ed-roberson-323217"},"episode":{"title":"Jason Gardner Returns – Fire, Leadership, and What Really Matters","slug":"jason-gardner-returns-fire-leadership-and-what-really-matters","published_at":"2026-01-22T20:45:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/mountain-prairie-with-ed-roberson-323217/jason-gardner-returns-fire-leadership-and-what-really-matters","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/mountain-prairie-with-ed-roberson-323217","url":"https://mountainandprairie.libsyn.com/jason-gardner-returns-fire-leadership-and-what-really-matters","audio_url":"https://traffic.libsyn.com/secure/mountainandprairie/Jason-Gardner-2.mp3?dest-id=1600085","summary":"Jason Gardner is a retired Navy SEAL who now works as a top-level leadership instructor with Echelon Front. Over his thirty-year career in the SEAL teams, he served in combat operations in Somalia, Iraq, and Afghanistan, later becoming Command Master Chief of SEAL Team Five and Training Detachment. Since retiring from the Navy, Jason has worked with hundreds of organizations as a leadership instructor and strategic advisor, helping teams apply high-stakes leadership principles to business and life. He now lives in a remote corner of northeastern Washington with his wife, Iris, and their two children, where he spends his time working on their homestead and staying closely connected to the land. This is Jason's second time on the podcast, and I'd strongly recommend going back and listening to our first conversation from 2021, along with the episode I recorded with Iris. Those earlier interviews dig deeper into Jason's career, his transition out of the military, and the longer arc of their family's journey—context that adds real depth to what we talk about here. This conversation unfolds in two parts. The first half hour or so is a firsthand account of the Hope Fire, a fast-moving wildfire that came dangerously close to destroying Jason and Iris's property and home last summer. Jason walks through the experience in detail—what it's like to prepare for evacuation, to work through exhaustion and uncertainty, and to rely on firefighters, neighbors, and community when the stakes are painfully real. In the second part, we widen the lens. Jason reflects on the lessons that emerged from the fire—about leadership, humility, and responsibility—and connects them to his own personal evolution over the last several years. We talk about PTSD, quitting drinking, the role psychedelic-as…","meta_description":"Jason Gardner is a retired Navy SEAL who now works as a top-level leadership instructor with Echelon Front. Over his thirty-year career in the SEAL teams,…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":5568,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/mountain-prairie-with-ed-roberson-323217/episodes/jason-gardner-returns-fire-leadership-and-what-really-matters/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/mountain-prairie-with-ed-roberson-323217/jason-gardner-returns-fire-leadership-and-what-really-matters.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}