{"podcast":{"title":"More or Less","slug":"more-or-less-6425141","podcast_index_feed_id":6425141,"rss_url":"https://anchor.fm/s/e3c9ef30/podcast/rss","website_url":"https://moreorlesspod.com/","image_url":"https://d3t3ozftmdmh3i.cloudfront.net/staging/podcast_uploaded_nologo/38116620/38116620-1716176683266-60ee7e22a9d27.jpg","author":"Dave Morin, Jessica Lessin, Brit Morin, and Sam Lessin","episode_count":159,"summary":"Dave Morin, Jessica Lessin, Brit Morin, and Sam Lessin have debated the future of Silicon Valley and tech as the closest of friends for the last 15 years. Now six companies, two venture funds and more than a decade at Google, Apple and Facebook later, they are opening up the debate. From The Information, Offline Ventures, and Slow Ventures. Follow the crew: http://x.com/davemorin http://x.com/brit http://x.com/lessin http:/x.com/jessicalessin Follow the pod: https://moreorlesspod.com/ http://youtube.com/moreorlesspod https://x.com/moreorlesspod","last_synced_at":"2026-07-10T22:17:30.049171+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/more-or-less-6425141"},"episode":{"title":"Why the Met Gala Hates Tech, Elon vs OpenAI Drama, and the Rise of Chinese AI Models","slug":"why-the-met-gala-hates-tech-elon-vs-openai-drama-and-the-rise-of-chinese-ai-models","published_at":"2026-05-08T16:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/more-or-less-6425141/why-the-met-gala-hates-tech-elon-vs-openai-drama-and-the-rise-of-chinese-ai-models","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/more-or-less-6425141","url":"https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/moreorlesspod/episodes/Why-the-Met-Gala-Hates-Tech--Elon-vs-OpenAI-Drama--and-the-Rise-of-Chinese-AI-Models-e3j2abk","audio_url":"https://anchor.fm/s/e3c9ef30/podcast/play/119662388/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-4-7%2F423717508-44100-2-9bf2f9a18e1c7.mp3","summary":"Jess, Britt, and Dave unpack everything from Home Depot runs and closet “re-jiggers” to the internet’s growing backlash against tech wealth, AI, and Silicon Valley culture. The squad debates whether the Met Gala became a symbol of “techlash,” how layoffs and AI anxiety are reshaping public sentiment, and whether AI will actually democratize opportunity or simply concentrate power faster. They also dive into the wild new AI alliances between Anthropic, Elon, and hyperscalers, the latest OpenAI vs Elon trial drama, and why product adoption, not regulation, will decide the future of AI. Plus, Dave shares major OpenClaw updates, real-world AI workflow automations, Meta fork rumors, and the surprisingly relatable use case of turning meeting transcripts into family “receipt printer” briefings. Rounded out with solo movie dates, Taylor Swift theories, Star Wars discourse, and the state of flake culture. Chapters: 00:58 Jess' Home Renovation Project While Sam is Out 03:54 Met Gala: When the Bezoses Became the Story 07:13 Techlash, Wealthlash, and the AI Jobs Backlash 09:36 Trump’s Surprise Pivot Toward AI Regulation 11:51 China, Open-Source Models, and Dave’s $5K Blackwell Desktop 14:13 The Optimistic Case: AI as the Great Wealth Equalizer 17:55 The Pessimistic Case: Tools Democratize, Economics Consolidate 19:43 What Changes Public Sentiment: Better Products, Not Better Arguments 22:42 Layoffs: Pandemic Hangover or AI Substitution? 27:56 Why Almost No One Is Actually Using AI Yet 33:15 Anthropic’s Compute Scramble and the SpaceX/Colossus Deal 36:27 Dario vs. Elon: Two Very Different Operators 39:55 The OpenAI vs. Musk Trial: TMZ or Substance? 45:33 Polymarket, Twitter-Mention Betting, and ChatGPT Comeback 46:42 OpenClaw Update: Foundation, Plugin Architecture, China Forks 50:…","meta_description":"Jess, Britt, and Dave unpack everything from Home Depot runs and closet “re-jiggers” to the internet’s growing backlash against tech wealth, AI, and Silic…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":3547,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/more-or-less-6425141/episodes/why-the-met-gala-hates-tech-elon-vs-openai-drama-and-the-rise-of-chinese-ai-models/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/more-or-less-6425141/why-the-met-gala-hates-tech-elon-vs-openai-drama-and-the-rise-of-chinese-ai-models.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}