{"podcast":{"title":"Modern CTO","slug":"modern-cto-509977","podcast_index_feed_id":509977,"rss_url":"https://feeds.megaphone.fm/LDB8042666505","website_url":"https://moderncto.io","image_url":"https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/2d6d7560-25d2-11eb-8539-bbfe78da0578/image/14c48ec2ce0612950bd6b725cd6ec1eb.png?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&max-w=3000&max-h=3000&fit=crop&auto=format,compress","author":"Joel Beasley | Modern CTO","episode_count":927,"summary":"Modern CTO is the #1 place where technology leaders and CTOs hang out. We live to bring tech leaders value. Listen in on our fun, intelligent and engaging podcast. We hang out with interesting and popular CTOs in Aerospace, Artificial Intelligence, Robotics + Many more industries. All of this, right here, right now, on the Modern CTO Podcast. What do you think of the show? Let us know here!","last_synced_at":"2026-07-06T22:17:33.248321+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/modern-cto-509977"},"episode":{"title":"Why Kubernetes Still Feels So Hard & What to Do About It with Steve Francis, CEO of Sidero Labs","slug":"why-kubernetes-still-feels-so-hard-what-to-do-about-it-with-steve-francis-ceo-of-sidero-labs","published_at":"2026-06-22T11:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/modern-cto-509977/why-kubernetes-still-feels-so-hard-what-to-do-about-it-with-steve-francis-ceo-of-sidero-labs","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/modern-cto-509977","url":"https://chrt.fm/track/B4A277/traffic.megaphone.fm/LDB1447508459.mp3","audio_url":"https://chrt.fm/track/B4A277/traffic.megaphone.fm/LDB1447508459.mp3","summary":"What if you didn’t have to solve problems? You can just remove them entirely. Today, we're talking to Steve Francis, CEO at Sidero Labs, about why the most dangerous thing running in your infrastructure might be the operating system itself. We discuss how eliminating features rather than adding them is the real path to security, why the promise of multi-cloud portability turned out to be a lesson in what customers actually care about, and why \"extreme ownership\" remains the most empowering philosophy a leader can adopt. All of this right here, right now, on the Modern CTO Podcast! To learn more about Sidero Labs, check out their website here.","meta_description":"What if you didn’t have to solve problems? You can just remove them entirely. Today, we're talking to Steve Francis, CEO at Sidero Labs, about why the mos…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":3135,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/modern-cto-509977/episodes/why-kubernetes-still-feels-so-hard-what-to-do-about-it-with-steve-francis-ceo-of-sidero-labs/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/modern-cto-509977/why-kubernetes-still-feels-so-hard-what-to-do-about-it-with-steve-francis-ceo-of-sidero-labs.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}