{"podcast":{"title":"Modern CTO","slug":"modern-cto-509977","podcast_index_feed_id":509977,"rss_url":"https://feeds.megaphone.fm/LDB8042666505","website_url":"https://moderncto.io","image_url":"https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/2d6d7560-25d2-11eb-8539-bbfe78da0578/image/14c48ec2ce0612950bd6b725cd6ec1eb.png?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&max-w=3000&max-h=3000&fit=crop&auto=format,compress","author":"Joel Beasley | Modern CTO","episode_count":927,"summary":"Modern CTO is the #1 place where technology leaders and CTOs hang out. We live to bring tech leaders value. Listen in on our fun, intelligent and engaging podcast. We hang out with interesting and popular CTOs in Aerospace, Artificial Intelligence, Robotics + Many more industries. All of this, right here, right now, on the Modern CTO Podcast. What do you think of the show? Let us know here!","last_synced_at":"2026-07-06T22:17:33.248321+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/modern-cto-509977"},"episode":{"title":"Where Do We Draw the Line on Letting AI Build? With Zach Goldberg, CEO at Gruntwork","slug":"where-do-we-draw-the-line-on-letting-ai-build-with-zach-goldberg-ceo-at-gruntwork","published_at":"2026-07-02T11:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/modern-cto-509977/where-do-we-draw-the-line-on-letting-ai-build-with-zach-goldberg-ceo-at-gruntwork","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/modern-cto-509977","url":"https://chrt.fm/track/B4A277/traffic.megaphone.fm/LDB2557926698.mp3","audio_url":"https://chrt.fm/track/B4A277/traffic.megaphone.fm/LDB2557926698.mp3","summary":"What happens when the worst among us get their hands on the most powerful tools? Today, we're talking to Zach Goldberg, CEO at Gruntwork, about the messy edges of AI adoption. We discuss why \"vibe coding\" has created a new category of disposable, single-purpose software that never would have existed before, why the line between AI you can trust to read data and AI you can trust to write to production may be the most important distinction in enterprise tech right now, and why the real bottleneck on AI misuse has shifted from access to intelligence itself. All of this right here, right now, on the Modern CTO Podcast! To learn more about Gruntwork, check out their website here.","meta_description":"What happens when the worst among us get their hands on the most powerful tools? Today, we're talking to Zach Goldberg, CEO at Gruntwork, about the messy…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":2834,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/modern-cto-509977/episodes/where-do-we-draw-the-line-on-letting-ai-build-with-zach-goldberg-ceo-at-gruntwork/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/modern-cto-509977/where-do-we-draw-the-line-on-letting-ai-build-with-zach-goldberg-ceo-at-gruntwork.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}