{"podcast":{"title":"MGMA Podcasts","slug":"mgma-podcasts-220052","podcast_index_feed_id":220052,"rss_url":"https://feeds.transistor.fm/mgma-podcasts","website_url":"https://www.mgma.com/podcasts","image_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/iBtmjVpU9D29VjqAfLGs2U3Us-t9jy7tYp_kNWTYmW0/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:1400/h:1400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS8yZWEz/ZWU5NmM0NTlmNWVj/Mjk1YjBkYjhmZTk0/MTA2YS5qcGc.jpg","author":"MGMA","episode_count":770,"summary":"Welcome to the MGMA Podcast Network, your gateway to insightful discussions and expert analysis on key topics in healthcare management. Dive into a diverse array of shows tailored to meet the interests and needs of healthcare professionals like you. Explore the experiences and perspectives of trailblazing women in healthcare on \"Women in Healthcare,\" or discover innovative strategies and solutions for your practice on \"Business Solutions.\" Stay updated on the latest industry trends and news with \"Week in Review,\" and gain valuable insights from industry leaders and MGMA members on \"Member Spotlight.\" Don't miss our flagship show, \"MGMA Insights,\" where we delve deep into the most pressing issues facing healthcare organizations today. Whether you're seeking inspiration, practical advice, or in-depth analysis, the MGMA Podcast Network is your trusted companion on your journey towards excellence in healthcare management. Tune in and join the conversation today!","last_synced_at":"2026-07-15T14:18:46.381160+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/mgma-podcasts-220052"},"episode":{"title":"\"More Guts Than Brains\" — Resilience, Reinvention, and Lifelong Learning with MGMA Fellow Pat Kroken","slug":"more-guts-than-brains-resilience-reinvention-and-lifelong-learning-with-mgma-fellow-pat-kroken","published_at":"2026-05-20T05:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/mgma-podcasts-220052/more-guts-than-brains-resilience-reinvention-and-lifelong-learning-with-mgma-fellow-pat-kroken","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/mgma-podcasts-220052","url":"https://mgma-podcasts.transistor.fm/766","audio_url":"https://media.transistor.fm/bb1943ff/44591772.mp3","summary":"On this episode of the MGMA Insights Podcast, host and senior editor Daniel Williams has a wide‑ranging conversation with Pat Kroken — MGMA Fellow, healthcare communications leader, and competitive powerlifter — about resilience, career reinvention, and the unexpected paths that shape leadership in healthcare. From books and community learning to recovering from a life‑altering injury and competing on the world stage, Pat shares stories and lessons that resonate far beyond titles or job descriptions. Episode Takeaways A lifelong love of reading can become a professional advantage — especially when paired with community discussion and shared perspectives, as seen in the MGMA Book Club. Careers in healthcare don’t always begin with a plan — sometimes they begin with a phone call, transferable skills, and the willingness to say yes. MGMA involvement at the state and national levels can accelerate learning, expand professional networks, and open leadership opportunities early in a healthcare career. The FACMPE provides structure, credibility, and confidence — particularly for professionals entering healthcare from other industries. Resilience is often learned through adversity; trusting the process can be essential when navigating injury, recovery, or major life transitions. Strength training and competitive powerlifting taught discipline, risk‑taking, and mental toughness that translated directly into leadership and career growth. Community learning — whether through book discussions or professional associations — offers insights and perspectives that individual study alone cannot provide. Pushing personal limits, even without a clear end goal, can unlock opportunities and capabilities you never imagined possible. Related Resources Connect with Pat on LinkedIn USA Powerli…","meta_description":"On this episode of the MGMA Insights Podcast, host and senior editor Daniel Williams has a wide‑ranging conversation with Pat Kroken — MGMA Fellow, health…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":1647,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/mgma-podcasts-220052/episodes/more-guts-than-brains-resilience-reinvention-and-lifelong-learning-with-mgma-fellow-pat-kroken/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/mgma-podcasts-220052/more-guts-than-brains-resilience-reinvention-and-lifelong-learning-with-mgma-fellow-pat-kroken.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}