{"podcast":{"title":"Marketing School - Digital Marketing and Online Marketing Tips","slug":"marketing-school-digital-marketing-and-online-marketing-tips-3891700","podcast_index_feed_id":3891700,"rss_url":"https://feeds.megaphone.fm/ESHO5419936864","website_url":"https://www.marketingschool.io/","image_url":"https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/c33275d8-1d35-11ef-8dc9-63277e600456/image/ec510512aa9bccd8d846b8b8d546688f.png?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&max-w=3000&max-h=3000&fit=crop&auto=format,compress","author":"Eric Siu and Neil Patel","episode_count":3319,"summary":"Neil Patel and Eric Siu bring you daily ACTIONABLE digital marketing lessons that they've learned through years of being in the trenches. Whether you have a new website or you're an established business, you'll learn the latest SEO, content marketing, social media, email marketing, conversion optimization and general online marketing strategies that work today from people that actually practice marketing and operate business. Approaching 100M downloads with 2,500+ episodes, you're sure to find something that will help you grow faster. Also don't forget to subscribe to our Marketing School Youtube channel to get more marketing goodness. 94849990-341d-11f1-a99b-e154abd40242","last_synced_at":"2026-07-10T00:20:21.382622+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/marketing-school-digital-marketing-and-online-marketing-tips-3891700"},"episode":{"title":"The AEO Panic Is Here — And It's The Best Thing To Happen To SEO","slug":"the-aeo-panic-is-here-and-it-s-the-best-thing-to-happen-to-seo","published_at":"2026-07-06T16:20:13+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/marketing-school-digital-marketing-and-online-marketing-tips-3891700/the-aeo-panic-is-here-and-it-s-the-best-thing-to-happen-to-seo","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/marketing-school-digital-marketing-and-online-marketing-tips-3891700","url":"https://traffic.megaphone.fm/ESHO5631532863.mp3","audio_url":"https://traffic.megaphone.fm/ESHO5631532863.mp3","summary":"Growth Newsletter: https://levelingup.beehiiv.com/subscribe Need marketing help? Visit: https://www.singlegrain.com/ and https://npdigital.com/ Want to recruit great marketers? Find them here: https://marketingschool.io/hire Eric opens with Eli Schwartz's viral take that the AEO panic is the best thing to happen to SEO budgets in years, and he and Neil unpack why every CMO is suddenly fighting over who owns answer engine optimization. They dig into why brands keep asking to just buy a tool like Profound, why publishing AI listicles is the new keyword stuffing, and how ChatGPT actually only crawls your own site a fraction of the time. Neil shares real agency data on the gap between SEO and GEO budgets that surprises even Eric, then they test which agencies the LLMs actually cite, from Seer and Wil Reynolds to iPullRank. They land on why brand, an omni-channel presence, and a human in the loop still decide who wins. The panic is real, but the money is not moving where you think. Key takeaways ◾AEO and SEO are far more tightly linked than the panic suggests ◾LLMs weigh what the whole web says about you, not just your own site ◾Buying a tracking tool is not a strategy when everyone can buy it too Chapters 00:00 The AEO panic explained 01:04 When SEO lived inside product 01:55 Why SEO budgets aren't shifting yet 02:50 What the panic really is 03:37 Losing pitches without technical SEO 04:15 \"Can't we just buy a tool?\" 04:49 Why publishing listicles fails 06:26 Software and services converge 07:22 Query fanouts and getting cited everywhere 09:22 SEO vs GEO budgets: 11x apart 11:12 Testing the agency queries 12:42 Profound pivots to done-for-you 13:44 Is the data really cleaner? 𝗔𝗕𝗢𝗨𝗧 𝗧𝗛𝗘 𝗖𝗛𝗔𝗡𝗡𝗘𝗟 Welcome to Marketing School, one of the top business podcasts with over 61 milli…","meta_description":"Growth Newsletter: https://levelingup.beehiiv.com/subscribe Need marketing help? Visit: https://www.singlegrain.com/ and https://npdigital.com/ Want to re…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":1024,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/marketing-school-digital-marketing-and-online-marketing-tips-3891700/episodes/the-aeo-panic-is-here-and-it-s-the-best-thing-to-happen-to-seo/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/marketing-school-digital-marketing-and-online-marketing-tips-3891700/the-aeo-panic-is-here-and-it-s-the-best-thing-to-happen-to-seo.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}