{"podcast":{"title":"Marketing School - Digital Marketing and Online Marketing Tips","slug":"marketing-school-digital-marketing-and-online-marketing-tips-3891700","podcast_index_feed_id":3891700,"rss_url":"https://feeds.megaphone.fm/ESHO5419936864","website_url":"https://www.marketingschool.io/","image_url":"https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/c33275d8-1d35-11ef-8dc9-63277e600456/image/ec510512aa9bccd8d846b8b8d546688f.png?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&max-w=3000&max-h=3000&fit=crop&auto=format,compress","author":"Eric Siu and Neil Patel","episode_count":3362,"summary":"Neil Patel and Eric Siu bring you daily ACTIONABLE digital marketing lessons that they've learned through years of being in the trenches. Whether you have a new website or you're an established business, you'll learn the latest SEO, content marketing, social media, email marketing, conversion optimization and general online marketing strategies that work today from people that actually practice marketing and operate business. Approaching 100M downloads with 2,500+ episodes, you're sure to find something that will help you grow faster. Also don't forget to subscribe to our Marketing School Youtube channel to get more marketing goodness. 94849990-341d-11f1-a99b-e154abd40242","last_synced_at":"2026-09-24T12:29:37.238395+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/marketing-school-digital-marketing-and-online-marketing-tips-3891700"},"episode":{"title":"How To Rank #1 On ChatGPT By... Gaming It?","slug":"how-to-rank-1-on-chatgpt-by-gaming-it","published_at":"2026-08-21T14:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/marketing-school-digital-marketing-and-online-marketing-tips-3891700/how-to-rank-1-on-chatgpt-by-gaming-it","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/marketing-school-digital-marketing-and-online-marketing-tips-3891700","url":"https://traffic.megaphone.fm/ESHO9647892085.mp3","audio_url":"https://traffic.megaphone.fm/ESHO9647892085.mp3","summary":"Growth Newsletter: https://levelingup.beehiiv.com/subscribe Need marketing help? Visit: https://www.singlegrain.com/ and https://npdigital.com/ Want to recruit great marketers? Find them here: https://marketingschool.io/hire A cafe in San Francisco lets startups pay to brand the drinks, so you can order an ElevenLatte or a MongoDB Greens. Eric thinks it is genius and cheap. Then the segment everyone will argue about: an Instagram reel showing a brand that does not exist ranked number one on ChatGPT for a real query. Neil and Eric take apart how it was done, why AEO is still SEO underneath, what Kimi's download and DAU curve says about Chinese model adoption, and why the Philippines back office grew instead of collapsing after ChatGPT. Key takeaways◾Brand in the places your buyer already stands, not just the feed◾If you can game it, it is a ranking system, and ranking systems are SEO◾AI made offshore work more valuable, employment is up 20% and revenue up 30% Chapters00:00 Intro Etiquette Matters00:07 Branding in Public Places03:22 Ranking on ChatGPT05:34 AEO Is Still SEO06:16 Kimi’s Growth Surge08:41 Marketable Moments Matter12:19 AI Creates More Jobs","meta_description":"Growth Newsletter: https://levelingup.beehiiv.com/subscribe Need marketing help? Visit: https://www.singlegrain.com/ and https://npdigital.com/ Want to re…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":1055,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/marketing-school-digital-marketing-and-online-marketing-tips-3891700/episodes/how-to-rank-1-on-chatgpt-by-gaming-it/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/marketing-school-digital-marketing-and-online-marketing-tips-3891700/how-to-rank-1-on-chatgpt-by-gaming-it.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}