{"podcast":{"title":"Marketing Against The Grain","slug":"marketing-against-the-grain-5293669","podcast_index_feed_id":5293669,"rss_url":"https://feeds.megaphone.fm/marketingagainstthegrain","website_url":"https://www.hubspot.com/podcastnetwork?hubs_post=blog.hubspot.com%2F&hubs_post-cta=null&_ga=2.137319926.735863617.1675966337-1473551662.1664480619&_gl=1*plfdhm*_ga*MTQ3MzU1MTY2Mi4xNjY0NDgwNjE5*_ga_LXTM6CQ0XK*MTY3NTk2NjMzNS4zMS4xLjE2NzU5NjY0MzUuMC4wLjA.","image_url":"https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/6a1c6e3c-af7c-11ec-a955-fb60e2a1bf27/image/56f6346e8f14754f1e53f54e5f23a775.png?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&max-w=3000&max-h=3000&fit=crop&auto=format,compress","author":"Hubspot","episode_count":443,"summary":"Kipp Bodnar (HubSpot’s CMO) and Kieran Flanagan (Hubspot's SVP of Marketing), lead you down the rabbit hole of marketing trends, growth tactics and innovation. On the way you’ll pick up undiscovered strategies to give you that slight edge for success. These are not your typical twitter thread regurgitated marketing tactics that everyone is doing. These are new methods, with unfiltered examination of successful fresh ideas.","last_synced_at":"2026-07-21T14:20:24.660466+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain-5293669"},"episode":{"title":"This Is the End of Chatbots","slug":"this-is-the-end-of-chatbots","published_at":"2026-05-14T05:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain-5293669/this-is-the-end-of-chatbots","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain-5293669","url":"https://pdst.fm/e/tracking.swap.fm/track/AwSmAF8PeQlxyS7Q0R8T/traffic.megaphone.fm/HS2436502519.mp3","audio_url":"https://pdst.fm/e/tracking.swap.fm/track/AwSmAF8PeQlxyS7Q0R8T/traffic.megaphone.fm/HS2436502519.mp3","summary":"Get the Voice AI Prompt Pack for Marketers: https://clickhubspot.com/fd5a Ep. 426 AI will give your brand an actual voice. Kipp dives into the hottest trend in AI that not many are talking about—Voice AI—and how it’s set to revolutionize your brand’s customer experience. Learn more on why real-time voice is the new marketing channel you can’t afford to ignore, how foundational advances from OpenAI and Thinking Machines make AI conversations faster and more human than ever, and the steps every marketer should take to define, audit, and upgrade their brand’s voice in the age of AI. Mentions GPT‑Realtime‑2 https://openai.com/index/advancing-voice-intelligence-with-new-models-in-the-api/ Thinking Machines https://thinkingmachines.ai/ Willow Voice https://willowvoice.com/ ElevenLabs https://elevenlabs.io/ Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt Resource [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip We’re on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGtXqPiNV8YC0GMUzY-EUFg Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@matgpod Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934 If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Host Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // B…","meta_description":"Get the Voice AI Prompt Pack for Marketers: https://clickhubspot.com/fd5a Ep. 426 AI will give your brand an actual voice. Kipp dives into the hottest tre…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":1151,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/marketing-against-the-grain-5293669/episodes/this-is-the-end-of-chatbots/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain-5293669/this-is-the-end-of-chatbots.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}