{"podcast":{"title":"Mark Leonard's World in 30 Minutes","slug":"mark-leonard-s-world-in-30-minutes-162427","podcast_index_feed_id":162427,"rss_url":"https://feeds.acast.com/public/shows/65b12b49ff5af10016347961","website_url":"https://ecfr.eu","image_url":"https://assets.pippa.io/shows/65b12b49ff5af10016347961/show-cover.jpg","author":"Mark Leonard's World in 30 Minutes","episode_count":644,"summary":"Weekly podcast on the events, policies and ideas that will shape the world.World in 30 minutes is curated by Mark Leonard, Director of the European Council on Foreign Relations (ECFR), and features top-level speakers from across the EU and beyond to debate and discuss Europe’s role in the world. It was awarded “Best podcasts on EU politics” by PolicyLab in 2019.Member of the EuroPod network. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.","last_synced_at":"2026-07-09T22:17:44.278533+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/mark-leonard-s-world-in-30-minutes-162427"},"episode":{"title":"The age of unorder","slug":"the-age-of-unorder","published_at":"2026-05-01T05:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/mark-leonard-s-world-in-30-minutes-162427/the-age-of-unorder","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/mark-leonard-s-world-in-30-minutes-162427","url":"https://shows.acast.com/ecfr/episodes/europe-in-an-age-of-unorder","audio_url":"https://sphinx.acast.com/p/open/s/65b12b49ff5af10016347961/e/69f35204ad9857928928de3f/media.mp3","summary":"This week,&nbsp; Mark Leonard &nbsp;welcomes&nbsp; Ayşe Zarakol , &nbsp; professor&nbsp;of&nbsp;international&nbsp;relations&nbsp;at Cambridge&nbsp;University, &nbsp; to&nbsp;explore whether today’s&nbsp;global crises&nbsp;signal disorder&nbsp;or a deeper shift toward “unorder,” where shared rules and assumptions are&nbsp;no longer relevant.&nbsp; Drawing on historical parallels—from the interwar period to the upheavals of the 17th century—Zarakol&nbsp;suggests&nbsp;that&nbsp;this may&nbsp;be&nbsp;the start of a longer era of fragmentation. Together, they examine what this means for Europe, from letting go of old&nbsp;ways of&nbsp;thinking&nbsp;to redefining its role in a more unpredictable world.&nbsp; Rather than restoring a fading order, the focus shifts to a more urgent&nbsp;scenario: what is worth&nbsp;preserving&nbsp;and how can Europe adapt to&nbsp;chaos to&nbsp;survive?&nbsp; This podcast episode was recorded on&nbsp;26th of February. &nbsp; Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.","meta_description":"This week, Mark Leonard welcomes Ayşe Zarakol , professor of international relations at Cambridge Univer…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":1501,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/mark-leonard-s-world-in-30-minutes-162427/episodes/the-age-of-unorder/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/mark-leonard-s-world-in-30-minutes-162427/the-age-of-unorder.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}