{"podcast":{"title":"Making Cents","slug":"making-cents-6998736","podcast_index_feed_id":6998736,"rss_url":"https://feeds.captivate.fm/makingcents/","website_url":"https://www.francescook.co.nz/making-cents","image_url":"https://artwork.captivate.fm/3f4ddd44-6a56-460b-88eb-950d815bc419/frances-cook-making-cents-podcast-art-no-acast.jpg","author":"Frances Cook","episode_count":266,"summary":"The podcast for people who want financial freedom, without giving up their coffee. That means it's time to make the money world make cents. Join Frances Cook, best-selling author and award-winning journalist, to talk about the proven ways to invest your way to financial independence, buy your first home, or just get your spending under control. Every Monday we have the week's feature interview, with someone who's done something interesting with their money. From paying off a mountain of debt, or investing for financial independence, or starting a new business, these are the ordinary people making the extraordinary possible. On Thursday we have Ask the Experts, where industry insiders answer your questions on the money world. From earning more in your career, to investing, or sticking to a budget, they'll help make money simple. Every now and then you'll get a bonus episode too, but the fun of those is that you never know when they're coming!","last_synced_at":"2026-07-03T06:17:38.971810+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/making-cents-6998736"},"episode":{"title":"Spending Money the Right Way (Most Kiwis Miss This)","slug":"spending-money-the-right-way-most-kiwis-miss-this","published_at":"2026-05-13T17:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/making-cents-6998736/spending-money-the-right-way-most-kiwis-miss-this","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/making-cents-6998736","url":"https://www.francescook.co.nz/making-cents","audio_url":"https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/4b64a084-9616-487f-9e73-6e6f8150155b.mp3","summary":"It's one thing to build financial stability, it's another to actually let yourself enjoy it. In this Ask the Experts episode, Frances Cook is joined by Katie Wesney from Enable Me to unpack a problem that's more common than you'd think: what happens when the scarcity mindset that helped you build financial security starts working against you? A listener wrote in with a $5 million net worth, and genuine anxiety about spending any of it. Kmart clothes, secondhand cars, no overseas trips in six years. On paper, financially free. In practice, still living like every dollar matters. In this episode, we get into: – Why money anxiety doesn't disappear when the numbers improve – The difference between what you should spend on and what actually lights you up – How childhood experiences with money shape your relationship with it for decades – What a financial adviser actually does to help you build permission to spend – The practical systems that replace anxiety with confidence – Why the 4% rule exists, and how to think about your own number. Have a question you'd like us to tackle? Send it to ask@francescook.co.nz and you might feature on a future episode. Follow me everywhere! Facebook / https://www.facebook.com/FrancesCookNZ Instagram / https://www.instagram.com/francescooknz TikTok / https://www.tiktok.com/@francescooknz Join the Money Memo newsletter for a free weekly money tip in your inbox each week https://www.francescook.co.nz/subscribe Become a confident sharemarket investor by signing up to the Market Memo newsletter https://www.francescook.co.nz/invest #MakingCents #FrancesCook #MakingCentsPodcast #InvestingPodcast #MoneyPodcast #FinancialFreedom This podcast was filmed &amp; produced by Fanaticals Video editing &amp; content production by Lana Byrne Audio engineerin…","meta_description":"It's one thing to build financial stability, it's another to actually let yourself enjoy it. In this Ask the Experts episode, Frances Cook is joined by Ka…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":973,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/making-cents-6998736/episodes/spending-money-the-right-way-most-kiwis-miss-this/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/making-cents-6998736/spending-money-the-right-way-most-kiwis-miss-this.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}