{"podcast":{"title":"Make Visible: ME/CFS, Long Covid, POTS, EDS, Fibro & MCAS Explored","slug":"make-visible-chronic-illness-explored-7015207","podcast_index_feed_id":7015207,"rss_url":"https://feed.podbean.com/madevisible/feed.xml","website_url":"https://madevisible.podbean.com","image_url":"https://pbcdn1.podbean.com/imglogo/image-logo/19258195/MakeVisible_artwork2000_nwhgpv.jpeg","author":"Visible with Emily Kate Stephens","episode_count":40,"summary":"Shining a light on complex chronic illness. Journalist Emily Kate Stephens discusses the latest research and insights with the world’s leading experts, scientists and healthcare professionals. Including ME/CFS, Long Covid, EDS, Fibromyalgia, POTS, and more, we delve into living with energy-limiting, invisible illness.","last_synced_at":"2026-07-25T06:20:50.842452+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/make-visible-chronic-illness-explored-7015207"},"episode":{"title":"#34 Fibromyalgia and chronic pain management with Ryan Bourdo, Physical Therapist","slug":"34-fibromyalgia-and-chronic-pain-management-with-ryan-bourdo-physical-therapist","published_at":"2026-05-15T18:26:17+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/make-visible-chronic-illness-explored-7015207/34-fibromyalgia-and-chronic-pain-management-with-ryan-bourdo-physical-therapist","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/make-visible-chronic-illness-explored-7015207","url":"https://madevisible.podbean.com/e/34-fibromyalgia-and-chronic-pain-management-with-ryan-bourdo-physical-therapist/","audio_url":"https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/cw44ykzde8rzr9mj/Visible_S1_Ep34_Ryan_Bourdo.mp3","summary":"If you live with fibromyalgia, ME/CFS, EDS or chronic pain, you may have been told that exercise can help — but also learned that pushing too hard can worsen symptoms. In this episode, physical therapist Ryan Bourdo (Oregon Health & Science University, Portland) explains how individualised, patient-led rehabilitation strategies can support quality of life without becoming an added burden. Ryan specialises in fibromyalgia, Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome (EDS) and related conditions, using a compassionate, listening-first approach to care. We’re also joined by occupational therapist Amy Mooney, founder of OT4ME, who shares insights from more than 20 years working with ME/CFS, Long Covid, EDS, MCAS and Post-Exertional Malaise (PEM). Together, we explore pacing, movement, rest, low-stress rehabilitation, and why treating patients as individuals is essential for meaningful care. Topics include: • Movement and chronic pain management • Why rehabilitation must be tailored to the individual • Listening to patients with energy-limiting conditions • Understanding rest, pacing and Post-Exertional Malaise • Creating sustainable, low-stress therapy strategies • Finding manageable ways to improve daily life makevisible.com @visible.health podfeedback@makevisible.com","meta_description":"If you live with fibromyalgia, ME/CFS, EDS or chronic pain, you may have been told that exercise can help — but also learned that pushing too hard can wor…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":3313,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/make-visible-chronic-illness-explored-7015207/episodes/34-fibromyalgia-and-chronic-pain-management-with-ryan-bourdo-physical-therapist/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/make-visible-chronic-illness-explored-7015207/34-fibromyalgia-and-chronic-pain-management-with-ryan-bourdo-physical-therapist.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}