{"podcast":{"title":"Make It Happen Mondays - B2B Sales Talk with John Barrows","slug":"make-it-happen-mondays-b2b-sales-talk-with-john-barrows-856155","podcast_index_feed_id":856155,"rss_url":"https://feeds.captivate.fm/make-it-happen-mondays/","website_url":"https://podcast.jbarrows.com/public/60/Make-It-Happen-Mondays---B2B-Sales-Talk-with-John-Barrows-e8d5c0d3","image_url":"https://artwork.captivate.fm/d84e709a-4e60-4476-9c30-d18353e295ae/jiMwzJtlBxrVtqeZEDAnMJDt.jpg","author":"John Barrows","episode_count":241,"summary":"John Barrows helps sales leaders decide whether to replace or rebuild their teams for the AI era, drawing on 25+ years working with Salesforce, LinkedIn, Google, and Amazon. He advises CROs and VPs of Sales on AI readiness, team structure, and go-to-market strategy. He trains sales teams on the fundamentals that drive consistent performance, with or without AI.","last_synced_at":"2026-09-14T20:19:03.375453+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/make-it-happen-mondays-b2b-sales-talk-with-john-barrows-856155"},"episode":{"title":"Why Human Connection Still Wins in an AI-Driven GTM World with Katrin Gurvich","slug":"why-human-connection-still-wins-in-an-ai-driven-gtm-world-with-katrin-gurvich","published_at":"2026-07-27T10:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/make-it-happen-mondays-b2b-sales-talk-with-john-barrows-856155/why-human-connection-still-wins-in-an-ai-driven-gtm-world-with-katrin-gurvich","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/make-it-happen-mondays-b2b-sales-talk-with-john-barrows-856155","url":"https://make-it-happen-mondays.captivate.fm/episode/why-human-connection-still-wins-in-an-ai-driven-gtm-world-with-katrin-gurvich","audio_url":"https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/episodes.captivate.fm/episode/768e0a1f-f9b3-43cd-a859-d4adad862077.mp3","summary":"AI can speed up the work, but it still cannot replace the human connection that moves trust forward. In this episode, John sits down with Katrin Gurvich, a GTM Strategy & Operations leader at Navan, to talk about networking, referrals, AI, hiring, and what modern sales teams need to protect as the go-to-market world gets more automated. Katrin shares how she built connection as a skill, why referrals have lost meaning when they become a checkmark, and why AI-assisted work still requires real ownership from the person using it. If you are in sales, RevOps, enablement, leadership, or any GTM role where AI is changing the way work gets done, this conversation gives you a practical way to think about human touch, buyer trust, personal brand, and how reps should use the time AI gives back. Want to build a team AI can support but never replace? Visit www.jbarrows.com and learn how you can Make It Happen. What You'll Learn Why networking is a skill you can build through repetition Why referrals only matter when real trust sits behind them How AI use reveals ownership, curiosity, and judgment Why human connection still matters in modern GTM execution How onsites, events, and personal touches can change sales conversations Why reps need to use AI-given time to get sharper, not just faster Katrin Gurvich is a GTM Strategy & Operations leader at Navan, where she partners across sales and revenue teams to translate high-level strategy into day-to-day execution. Her work spans diagnosing business health, improving pipeline visibility, and helping revenue leaders separate real signal from vanity metrics like quota attainment. Before Navan, Katrin held roles in sales planning and analytics at Dropbox, management consulting at HealthScape Advisors, and corporate and institutio…","meta_description":"AI can speed up the work, but it still cannot replace the human connection that moves trust forward. In this episode, John sits down with Katrin Gurvich,…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":3165,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/make-it-happen-mondays-b2b-sales-talk-with-john-barrows-856155/episodes/why-human-connection-still-wins-in-an-ai-driven-gtm-world-with-katrin-gurvich/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/make-it-happen-mondays-b2b-sales-talk-with-john-barrows-856155/why-human-connection-still-wins-in-an-ai-driven-gtm-world-with-katrin-gurvich.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}