{"podcast":{"title":"Machines Like Us","slug":"machines-like-us-97796","podcast_index_feed_id":97796,"rss_url":"https://feeds.simplecast.com/FJSi7gLl","website_url":"https://www.theglobeandmail.com/podcasts/machines-like-us/?token=s3d","image_url":"https://image.simplecastcdn.com/images/5829159f-6973-4aae-be8c-2e4a6cf3b1a8/51c9ed6a-5439-45e0-9ede-c50bba95a992/3000x3000/mlu-final-apr23.jpg?aid=rss_feed","author":"The Globe and Mail","episode_count":51,"summary":"Machines Like Us is a technology show about people. We are living in an age of breakthroughs propelled by advances in artificial intelligence. Technologies that were once the realm of science fiction will become our reality: robot best friends, bespoke gene editing, brain implants that make us smarter. Every other Tuesday Taylor Owen sits down with the people shaping this rapidly approaching future. He’ll speak with entrepreneurs building world-changing technologies, lawmakers trying to ensure they’re safe, and journalists and scholars working to understand how they’re transforming our lives.","last_synced_at":"2026-07-21T22:18:08.692236+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/machines-like-us-97796"},"episode":{"title":"In the Wake of Tumbler Ridge, Can We Trade Privacy for Safety?","slug":"in-the-wake-of-tumbler-ridge-can-we-trade-privacy-for-safety","published_at":"2026-03-10T10:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/machines-like-us-97796/in-the-wake-of-tumbler-ridge-can-we-trade-privacy-for-safety","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/machines-like-us-97796","url":"https://www.theglobeandmail.com/podcasts/machines-like-us/?token=s3d","audio_url":"https://pscrb.fm/rss/p/afp-119681-injected.calisto.simplecastaudio.com/7862a9c5-dc9a-4d42-9fcd-d04ed44df073/episodes/6d60697a-992a-4d83-ad9c-263c7ad11b8a/audio/128/default.mp3?aid=rss_feed&awCollectionId=7862a9c5-dc9a-4d42-9fcd-d04ed44df073&awEpisodeId=6d60697a-992a-4d83-ad9c-263c7ad11b8a&feed=FJSi7gLl","summary":"On Feb. 10, 2026, an 18-year-old opened fire at a high school in Tumbler Ridge, B.C., killing eight people before turning a gun on herself. In the weeks that followed, OpenAI admitted that the perpetrator had been discussing the attack with ChatGPT – and that the company had chosen not to alert authorities. But, in the aftermath of one of the deadliest shootings in our country’s history, many Canadians are asking: Why not? It’s a reasonable question. But the idea that AI companies should automatically report violent conversations to police is more complicated than it sounds. To try and unpack it, I spoke with Meredith Whittaker, the President of Signal – an encrypted messaging platform that doesn’t collect your data, serve you ads, or track who you’re talking to. Whittaker runs the most private messaging app on the planet, which also means there is almost certainly illegal activity happening on Signal that no one, including her, knows about. But this conversation isn’t just about Tumbler Ridge. The instinct to trade privacy for “safety” is reshaping the entire tech landscape: Amazon now lets you scan a whole neighbourhood’s worth of Ring camera footage; Australia requires teenagers to verify their ages before accessing social media. These technologies offer real value – but they all ask you to give something up in return. So I wanted to ask Whittaker why that trade might not be worth making. Editor's note: A previous version of this article reported an incorrect final tally of the injured during the shooting at Tumbler Ridge. Two were critically injured. The podcast audio also includes an incorrect final tally of the injured.","meta_description":"On Feb. 10, 2026, an 18-year-old opened fire at a high school in Tumbler Ridge, B.C., killing eight people before turning a gun on herself. In the weeks t…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":2778,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/machines-like-us-97796/episodes/in-the-wake-of-tumbler-ridge-can-we-trade-privacy-for-safety/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/machines-like-us-97796/in-the-wake-of-tumbler-ridge-can-we-trade-privacy-for-safety.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}