{"podcast":{"title":"Machine Learning Street Talk (MLST)","slug":"machine-learning-street-talk","podcast_index_feed_id":781643,"rss_url":"https://anchor.fm/s/1e4a0eac/podcast/rss","website_url":"https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/machinelearningstreettalk","image_url":"https://d3t3ozftmdmh3i.cloudfront.net/staging/podcast_uploaded_nologo/4981699/4981699-1757416025703-f026fa81b6d04.jpg","author":"Machine Learning Street Talk (MLST)","episode_count":250,"summary":"Welcome! We engage in fascinating discussions with pre-eminent figures in the AI field. Our flagship show covers current affairs in AI, cognitive science, neuroscience and philosophy of mind with in-depth analysis. Our approach is unrivalled in terms of scope and rigour – we believe in intellectual diversity in AI, and we touch on all of the main ideas in the field with the hype surgically removed. MLST is run by Tim Scarfe, Ph.D (https://www.linkedin.com/in/ecsquizor/) and features regular appearances from MIT Doctor of Philosophy Keith Duggar (https://www.linkedin.com/in/dr-keith-duggar/).","last_synced_at":null,"page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/machine-learning-street-talk"},"episode":{"title":"Evolution \"Doesn't Need\" Mutation - Blaise Agüera y Arcas","slug":"evolution-doesn-t-need-mutation-blaise-ag-era-y-arcas","published_at":"2026-02-16T08:00:26+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/machine-learning-street-talk/evolution-doesn-t-need-mutation-blaise-ag-era-y-arcas","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/machine-learning-street-talk","url":"https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/machinelearningstreettalk/episodes/Evolution-Doesnt-Need-Mutation---Blaise-Agera-y-Arcas-e3f5d8f","audio_url":"https://traffic.megaphone.fm/APO6748687122.mp3","summary":"Blaise Agüera y Arcas argues that evolutionary novelty is driven by symbiogenesis—the merging of existing entities—rather than random mutation. 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