{"podcast":{"title":"M365.FM a Microsoft MVP Podcast by Mirko Peters","slug":"m365-fm-modern-work-security-and-productivity-with-microsoft-365-7311214","podcast_index_feed_id":7311214,"rss_url":"https://www.spreaker.com/show/6704921/episodes/feed","website_url":"https://www.m365.fm","image_url":"https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/dcd2a8cc504197846a71af23bbeb0707.jpg","author":"Mirko Peters - Microsoft 365, Teams, SharePoint, and Copilot for IT Pros","episode_count":989,"summary":"M365.FM is a podcast about Microsoft 365, Microsoft Copilot, AI, Modern Work, security, governance, Power Platform, Azure, and the technologies shaping the future of work.Hosted by Microsoft MVP Mirko Peters, M365.FM brings together Microsoft MVPs, Microsoft employees, product experts, architects, developers, and community leaders from around the world.Each episode goes beyond announcements and hype to explore what Microsoft technologies mean in practice. From Microsoft 365 Copilot and AI agents to Teams, SharePoint, Power Platform, Microsoft Fabric, Entra, Purview, security, governance, adoption, and automation, M365.FM focuses on real-world experience, implementation, strategy, and lessons learned.Expect expert interviews, technical deep dives, practical explainers, and conversations with people building, implementing, and shaping the Microsoft ecosystem.If you work with Microsoft 365, Copilot, AI, Modern Work, or the Microsoft Cloud, M365.FM helps you understand what matters, what works, and what is coming next.Hosted by Mirko Peters, Microsoft MVP. 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Dashboards, forms, navigation menus, search boxes, workflow builders, and endless clicks became the foundation of the software industry. But what happens when the user is no longer human? In this episode, we explore one of the most disruptive shifts in technology since the rise of cloud computing: the transition from human-driven software to agent-driven systems. As Computer-Using Agents (CUA), autonomous AI agents, and API-first architectures become mainstream, the traditional SaaS model faces an existential challenge. We examine why user interfaces were always a workaround for human limitations, how agents interact with software differently, and why the economics of seat-based software licensing are beginning to break down. More importantly, we explore what replaces the UI and how organizations must rethink architecture, governance, security, identity, workflows, and business value in a world where agents increasingly perform the work once done by people. This conversation goes far beyond AI hype. It is about the future operating model of enterprise technology and the strategic choices organizations must make today to remain competitive tomorrow. WHY THE USER INTERFACE IS BECOMING OBSOLETE The graphical user interface revolutionized computing by making technology accessible to humans. But every button, menu, and dashboard exists because humans require visual representations of data and actions. Agents do not. They consume structured information directly, reason over data, execute actions through APIs, and operate without visual abstractions. 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