{"podcast":{"title":"Lights On with Carl Lentz","slug":"lights-on-with-carl-lentz-6927795","podcast_index_feed_id":6927795,"rss_url":"https://rss.art19.com/lights-on-with-carl-lentz","website_url":"https://art19.com/shows/lights-on-with-carl-lentz","image_url":"https://content.production.cdn.art19.com/images/5b/64/0c/f2/5b640cf2-4e85-4c8f-843c-cea83efe4ce5/61b4e9f49ec24f27d4601374c0a37fcd8bc0f9cd5fb5cce410765f7cc703ff2b069875f10baf249f82c32d5d545b41bff021493f4c5ad5fbace6d56c7ab1bb75.jpeg","author":"B-Side","episode_count":105,"summary":"Lights On with Carl Lentz is exactly what this show is. Carl Lentz is turning on the lights in his own life, & giving people space to do the same. We will lead with vulnerability, & have open conversations to bring light to the inner darkness in our lives. Turn on the lights with us!","last_synced_at":"2026-07-21T04:18:16.689075+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/lights-on-with-carl-lentz-6927795"},"episode":{"title":"Living a Lie for 23 Years: How a Pastor Lost His Wife, Kids, and Church in One Day","slug":"living-a-lie-for-23-years-how-a-pastor-lost-his-wife-kids-and-church-in-one-day","published_at":"2025-12-31T06:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/lights-on-with-carl-lentz-6927795/living-a-lie-for-23-years-how-a-pastor-lost-his-wife-kids-and-church-in-one-day","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/lights-on-with-carl-lentz-6927795","url":"https://s.gum.fm/s-6750d39b27f9d571b5016e8c/claritaspod.com/measure/pscrb.fm/rss/p/rss.art19.com/episodes/d16d515d-c914-4246-9e7d-716819c5018b.mp3?rss_browser=BAhJIg90cmFuc2NyaWJyBjoGRVQ%3D--952c5701c84ad333c69d5faa668f8177091704f0","audio_url":"https://s.gum.fm/s-6750d39b27f9d571b5016e8c/claritaspod.com/measure/pscrb.fm/rss/p/rss.art19.com/episodes/d16d515d-c914-4246-9e7d-716819c5018b.mp3?rss_browser=BAhJIg90cmFuc2NyaWJyBjoGRVQ%3D--952c5701c84ad333c69d5faa668f8177091704f0","summary":"In this brutally honest episode of Lights On, Carl Lentz sits down with Blaine Bartell for round two of a conversation that sparked hundreds of messages from pastors in secret crisis. Blaine, a former megachurch pastor who led one of America's largest youth ministries, reveals the unspoken rule destroying leaders from the inside: \"Thou shalt not get caught.\" For the first time, he shares the shocking moment when a well-known pastor looked him in the eye after his exposure and said, \"You know what the difference is between you and me? You got caught.\" They dive deep into a buried Focus on the Family study revealing 68% of pastors struggle with porn, why that number is likely closer to 85% today, and why the church has created a system that disciplines men into secrecy rather than healing. From the identity shift that finally broke his 23-year addiction to why porn is never the real problem, this conversation exposes the epidemic nobody in church will talk about. Whether you're a pastor hiding in plain sight, a man who can't break free no matter how hard you try, or someone who loves a person trapped in secret shame, this episode offers a roadmap to the freedom of having nothing left to hide. Follow Carl at: https://www.instagram.com/carllentz/ Follow Blaine at: https://blainebartell.com/ Supported by God Behind Bars - https://godbehindbars.com Supported by Plana - https://plana.org/ CHAPTERS: 00:00 - INTRO: \"Thou Shalt Not Get Caught\" 01:08 - Blaine's Story: 23 Years of Secret Addiction Behind Ministry Success 05:10 - Good Friday 2010: The Day Everything Was Exposed 09:50 - \"You Got Caught. I Didn't.\" — What a Megachurch Pastor Told Him 14:52 - The Buried Study: Focus on the Family Found 68% of Pastors Struggle 20:26 - \"When We Punish Honesty, We Disciple Secrecy\" 23:45…","meta_description":"In this brutally honest episode of Lights On, Carl Lentz sits down with Blaine Bartell for round two of a conversation that sparked hundreds of messages f…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":3969,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/lights-on-with-carl-lentz-6927795/episodes/living-a-lie-for-23-years-how-a-pastor-lost-his-wife-kids-and-church-in-one-day/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/lights-on-with-carl-lentz-6927795/living-a-lie-for-23-years-how-a-pastor-lost-his-wife-kids-and-church-in-one-day.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}