{"podcast":{"title":"Life After Ministry","slug":"life-after-ministry-6573611","podcast_index_feed_id":6573611,"rss_url":"https://api.riverside.com/hosting/Q7dyZo24.rss","website_url":"https://lifeafterministry.podbean.com","image_url":"https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/imports/podcasts/fac660fe-98c1-4a31-9ea1-72e91819fd5c/Life_After_Ministry_Coverayrcd.jpg","author":"Matt & Marilee Davis","episode_count":96,"summary":"Many of us have experienced the sting of losing a job. But there’s something uniquely challenging about leaving a position in full-time vocational ministry. Whether you’re stepping down from a church or leaving a kingdom nonprofit, it’s not as simple as just changing jobs. Suddenly, everything changes. You’re left navigating not just a career transition, but also a profound shift in identity, community, and daily routines. It feels like stepping into an unknown, filled with questions like, ”What’s next? How do I redefine myself outside the ministry? How do I maintain my faith amidst this transition?” Welcome to the Life After Ministry Podcast. We’ve been there, navigating the complex journey from vocational ministry to a new chapter in our lives. We’ll explore stories of transformation, hear from those who’ve walked this path before, and provide practical strategies to turn your transition into transformation.","last_synced_at":"2026-07-15T08:22:15.146726+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/life-after-ministry-6573611"},"episode":{"title":"The Wilderness Is Not a Detour (featuring Dustin Kleinschmidt)","slug":"the-wilderness-is-not-a-detour-featuring-dustin-kleinschmidt","published_at":"2026-02-10T09:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/life-after-ministry-6573611/the-wilderness-is-not-a-detour-featuring-dustin-kleinschmidt","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/life-after-ministry-6573611","url":"https://lifeafterministry.podbean.com/e/the-wilderness-is-not-a-detour-featuring-dustin-kleinschmidt/","audio_url":"https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/8q2u2nf4pma4ed6k/Life_After_Ministry_Podcast_Episode_769d33c.mp3","summary":"Most ministry leaders expect relief after stepping away. What they don’t expect is the wilderness to begin after the resignation. In this honest conversation, Dustin Kleinschmidt shares how years of crisis leadership, misaligned values, and unresolved grief led to burnout, anxiety, and a deep reckoning with faith. Rather than rushing toward resolution, Dustin invites leaders to reconsider what the wilderness is actually for. This episode reframes suffering, challenges Christian shortcuts around pain, and offers language for leaders who feel stuck between obedience and disappointment. If you’ve ever wondered whether you missed God or why healing is taking so long, this conversation meets you right where you are.","meta_description":"Most ministry leaders expect relief after stepping away. What they don’t expect is the wilderness to begin after the resignation. In this honest conversat…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":2594,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/life-after-ministry-6573611/episodes/the-wilderness-is-not-a-detour-featuring-dustin-kleinschmidt/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/life-after-ministry-6573611/the-wilderness-is-not-a-detour-featuring-dustin-kleinschmidt.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}