{"podcast":{"title":"Life After Ministry","slug":"life-after-ministry-6573611","podcast_index_feed_id":6573611,"rss_url":"https://api.riverside.com/hosting/Q7dyZo24.rss","website_url":"https://lifeafterministry.podbean.com","image_url":"https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/imports/podcasts/fac660fe-98c1-4a31-9ea1-72e91819fd5c/Life_After_Ministry_Coverayrcd.jpg","author":"Matt & Marilee Davis","episode_count":96,"summary":"Many of us have experienced the sting of losing a job. But there’s something uniquely challenging about leaving a position in full-time vocational ministry. Whether you’re stepping down from a church or leaving a kingdom nonprofit, it’s not as simple as just changing jobs. Suddenly, everything changes. You’re left navigating not just a career transition, but also a profound shift in identity, community, and daily routines. It feels like stepping into an unknown, filled with questions like, ”What’s next? How do I redefine myself outside the ministry? How do I maintain my faith amidst this transition?” Welcome to the Life After Ministry Podcast. We’ve been there, navigating the complex journey from vocational ministry to a new chapter in our lives. We’ll explore stories of transformation, hear from those who’ve walked this path before, and provide practical strategies to turn your transition into transformation.","last_synced_at":"2026-07-15T08:22:15.146726+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/life-after-ministry-6573611"},"episode":{"title":"A Conversation About Invisible Grief (featuring Drew Hensley)","slug":"a-conversation-about-invisible-grief-featuring-drew-hensley","published_at":"2026-03-24T08:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/life-after-ministry-6573611/a-conversation-about-invisible-grief-featuring-drew-hensley","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/life-after-ministry-6573611","url":"https://lifeafterministry.podbean.com/e/a-conversation-about-invisible-grief-featuring-drew-hensley/","audio_url":"https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/uh3dsvt66k2dx4s2/Life_After_Ministry_Podcast_Episode_82bpx6t.mp3","summary":"There’s a kind of grief that doesn’t come with a clear loss. No funeral. No ending. Just the quiet ache of something that never came to be. For many in ministry, this kind of grief goes unnamed and unaddressed. Drew Hensley calls it “invisible grief.” It’s the pain of unrealized hopes, whether that’s infertility, singleness, unmet expectations, or a future you were certain God was leading you toward. And because it’s unseen, it often gets buried under responsibility, performance, and the pressure to keep showing up. In this conversation, Drew shares his personal journey through infertility while pastoring, the unhealthy ways he coped, and the turning point that led him toward honesty, lament, and healing. This episode offers a grounded, honest look at how to carry grief without losing your faith.","meta_description":"There’s a kind of grief that doesn’t come with a clear loss. No funeral. No ending. Just the quiet ache of something that never came to be. For many in mi…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":2452,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/life-after-ministry-6573611/episodes/a-conversation-about-invisible-grief-featuring-drew-hensley/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/life-after-ministry-6573611/a-conversation-about-invisible-grief-featuring-drew-hensley.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}