{"podcast":{"title":"Lenny's Podcast: Product | Career | Growth","slug":"lenny-s-podcast","podcast_index_feed_id":null,"rss_url":"https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/10845.rss","website_url":"https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/podcast","image_url":"https://substackcdn.com/feed/podcast/10845/6f98962f26f1b886bac3a845bb7ee00b.jpg","author":"Lenny Rachitsky","episode_count":355,"summary":"Deeply researched product, growth, and career advice for product leaders, founders, and ambitious builders.","last_synced_at":"2026-08-02T15:06:51.618951+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/lenny-s-podcast"},"episode":{"title":"How to find hidden growth opportunities in your product | Albert Cheng (Duolingo, Grammarly, Chess.com)","slug":"how-to-find-hidden-growth-opportunities-in-your-product-albert-cheng-duolingo-grammarly-chess-com","published_at":"2025-10-05T11:02:39+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/lenny-s-podcast/how-to-find-hidden-growth-opportunities-in-your-product-albert-cheng-duolingo-grammarly-chess-com","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/lenny-s-podcast","url":"https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/how-to-find-hidden-growth-opportunities-albert-cheng","audio_url":"https://pscrb.fm/rss/p/api.substack.com/feed/podcast/174369960/d10d7169e4bb47e29ac38bb6cd920163.mp3","summary":"Albert Cheng has led growth at three of the world’s most successful consumer subscription companies: Duolingo, Grammarly, and Chess.com. A former Google product manager (and serious pianist!), Albert developed a unique approach to finding and scaling growth opportunities through rapid experimentation and deep user psychology. His teams run 1,000 experiments a year, discovering counterintuitive insights that have driven tens of millions in revenue. What you’ll learn: 1. How to use the explore-exploit framework to find new growth opportunities 2. How showing premium features to free users doubled Grammarly’s upgrades to paid plans 3. What good retention looks like for a consumer subscription app 4. Why resurrected users drive 80% of mature product growth 5. Why “reverse trials” work better than time-based trials 6. The three pillars of successful gamification: core loop, metagame, and profile — Brought to you by: Vanta —Automate compliance. Simplify security. Jira Product Discovery —Confidence to build the right thing Miro —A collaborative visual platform where your best work comes to life — Where to find Albert Cheng: • X: https://x.com/albertc248 • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/albertcheng1/ • Chess.com: https://www.chess.com/member/Goniners — Where to find Lenny: • Newsletter: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com • X: https://twitter.com/lennysan • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lennyrachitsky/ — Referenced: • How Duolingo reignited user growth: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/how-duolingo-reignited-user-growth • Inside ChatGPT: The fastest-growing product in history | Nick Turley (Head of ChatGPT at OpenAI): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/inside-chatgpt-nick-turley • Explore vs. Exploit: https://brianbalfour.com/quick-takes/explore-vs-exploit • Gram…","meta_description":"Albert Cheng has led growth at three of the world’s most successful consumer subscription companies: Duolingo, Grammarly, and Chess.com. A former Google p…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":5125,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/lenny-s-podcast/episodes/how-to-find-hidden-growth-opportunities-in-your-product-albert-cheng-duolingo-grammarly-chess-com/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/lenny-s-podcast/how-to-find-hidden-growth-opportunities-in-your-product-albert-cheng-duolingo-grammarly-chess-com.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}