{"podcast":{"title":"Legacy","slug":"legacy-6673187","podcast_index_feed_id":6673187,"rss_url":"https://feeds.acast.com/public/shows/68e4c0be965488b63a6987c5","website_url":"https://wondery.com/shows/legacy/?utm_source=rss","image_url":"https://assets.pippa.io/shows/68e4c0be965488b63a6987c5/1769609822433-03c5fb3c-c526-4fb3-94af-0f0a1d20a738.jpeg","author":"Original Legacy Productions","episode_count":159,"summary":"Afua Hirsch and Peter Frankopan tell the wild stories of some of the most extraordinary men and women ever to have lived – and ask whether they have the rep they deserve. Should Nina Simone’s role in the civil rights movement be more celebrated than it is? When you find out what Picasso got up to in his studio, can you still admire his art? Was Napoleon a hero or a tyrant - or both? (And, while we’re at it, was he even short?) Legacy is the show that looks at big lives from the perspective of now – and doesn’t always like what it sees. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.","last_synced_at":"2026-06-23T12:18:46.780803+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/legacy-6673187"},"episode":{"title":"Founding Fathers | Saints and Sinners | 4","slug":"founding-fathers-saints-and-sinners-4","published_at":"2026-05-28T09:24:58+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/legacy-6673187/founding-fathers-saints-and-sinners-4","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/legacy-6673187","url":"https://shows.acast.com/originallegacy/episodes/founding-fathers-saints-and-sinners-4","audio_url":"https://sphinx.acast.com/p/open/s/68e4c0be965488b63a6987c5/e/6a180828847a83997e820548/media.mp3","summary":"Was Alexander Hamilton the real architect of American capitalism — or just the most self-destructive genius in the room? What does it mean that the man who shaped the nation's finances spent his career surrounded by an economy built on enslaved labour he understood firsthand? And, if the founding fathers were so brilliant, why is America still fighting about what they actually built? Peter and Afua peel back the marble on two of the most mythologised men in history: Hamilton, the penniless Caribbean immigrant who survived a hurricane, built the American financial machine, and then blew up his own career with a 95-page confession; and Washington, the slave-owning Virginia planter who became the face of liberty — and knew exactly when to put the power down. 0:00 Hamilton, Washington, and the show that won't let the founders off the hook 1:48 The Caribbean origins of Alexander Hamilton — and what Nevis reveals about colonial violence 5:30 How working at the epicentre of the Atlantic slave economy shaped Hamilton's political thinking 9:10 The outsider who doubled down: Hamilton's ambition, his tongue, and why people feared him 11:36 The Reynolds affair — confessing adultery to defeat a corruption charge 15:50 What Hamilton brought to the revolution that none of the others could 20:10 George Washington: the Virginia planter who had to learn how to be a gentleman 24:00 How marrying Martha Custis transformed Washington's wealth and status overnight 26:40 The land grab Britain tried to block — and why it radicalized Washington 30:30 The fragile coalition: Franklin's joke, the hanging rope, and what really held them together 35:00 Washington's genius was knowing what not to do — and when to walk away 38:40 The American dream was built on free labour — and the dishonesty that di…","meta_description":"Was Alexander Hamilton the real architect of American capitalism — or just the most self-destructive genius in the room? What does it mean that the man wh…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":2524,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/legacy-6673187/episodes/founding-fathers-saints-and-sinners-4/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/legacy-6673187/founding-fathers-saints-and-sinners-4.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}