{"podcast":{"title":"Leaders Lead Even When It Hurts","slug":"leaders-lead-even-when-it-hurts-4040372","podcast_index_feed_id":4040372,"rss_url":"https://anchor.fm/s/10982e150/podcast/rss","website_url":"https://flowcode.com/p/m7gi8a7zg?fc=0","image_url":"https://d3t3ozftmdmh3i.cloudfront.net/staging/podcast_uploaded_nologo/44445396/c02b08ce65260511.jpg","author":"Tony Taylor","episode_count":148,"summary":"Leaders Lead Even When It Hurts is a show about the real moments that shape us. Every week Tony Taylor sits with people who have lived through something hard and came out changed. Caregivers, creators, entrepreneurs, survivors. People in the messy middle who kept going even when it hurt. These conversations are raw, honest, and unscripted. We talk about the moments that broke you open, the choices that changed everything, and the strength you didn’t know you had. If you’re carrying a lot and trying to stay true to yourself while you build","last_synced_at":"2026-06-14T04:17:16.190287+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/leaders-lead-even-when-it-hurts-4040372"},"episode":{"title":"Surviving Estrangement","slug":"surviving-estrangement","published_at":"2026-03-20T07:16:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/leaders-lead-even-when-it-hurts-4040372/surviving-estrangement","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/leaders-lead-even-when-it-hurts-4040372","url":"https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/tony-taylor68/episodes/Surviving-Estrangement-e3gltcr","audio_url":"https://anchor.fm/s/10982e150/podcast/play/117158747/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-2-19%2F420335039-44100-2-1dc246807e8f2.m4a","summary":"I have watched estrangement hit like a full-body shock, not just a sad season. I have felt that disbelief where it seems like I am in the twilight zone, replaying every conversation, asking what I did, and getting nothing but silence back. In this conversation, I sit with Nancy McCartney as she explains why estrangement feels so cruel, why rumination starts, and how walking on eggshells trains the nervous system to stay on high alert. I keep coming back to one truth that changed how I move through this: awareness is the first act of liberation. You will leave with a clearer way to stop the loop and start moving again. Subscribe to Leaders Lead and leave a 5 star review . It helps the right people find the show. Listen here : leadersleadthepodcast.com Community Join the Leaders Lead Community : flowcode.com/p/cSHVgIMAa?fc=0 Join for support grounded conversation and a place to connect without the online noise while you navigate real life. Resources National Mental Health Support Lines: 988 or 1 800 273 8255 Podcast website: leadersleadthepodcast.com Leaders Lead Community: flowcode.com/p/cSHVgIMAa?fc=0","meta_description":"I have watched estrangement hit like a full-body shock, not just a sad season. I have felt that disbelief where it seems like I am in the twilight zone, r…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":3023,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/leaders-lead-even-when-it-hurts-4040372/episodes/surviving-estrangement/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/leaders-lead-even-when-it-hurts-4040372/surviving-estrangement.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}