{"podcast":{"title":"Leaders Lead Even When It Hurts","slug":"leaders-lead-even-when-it-hurts-4040372","podcast_index_feed_id":4040372,"rss_url":"https://anchor.fm/s/10982e150/podcast/rss","website_url":"https://flowcode.com/p/m7gi8a7zg?fc=0","image_url":"https://d3t3ozftmdmh3i.cloudfront.net/staging/podcast_uploaded_nologo/44445396/c02b08ce65260511.jpg","author":"Tony Taylor","episode_count":148,"summary":"Leaders Lead Even When It Hurts is a show about the real moments that shape us. Every week Tony Taylor sits with people who have lived through something hard and came out changed. Caregivers, creators, entrepreneurs, survivors. People in the messy middle who kept going even when it hurt. These conversations are raw, honest, and unscripted. We talk about the moments that broke you open, the choices that changed everything, and the strength you didn’t know you had. If you’re carrying a lot and trying to stay true to yourself while you build","last_synced_at":"2026-06-14T04:17:16.190287+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/leaders-lead-even-when-it-hurts-4040372"},"episode":{"title":"Leadership Under Scrutiny: Emily Clouse On the Record","slug":"leadership-under-scrutiny-emily-clouse-on-the-record","published_at":"2026-05-07T20:15:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/leaders-lead-even-when-it-hurts-4040372/leadership-under-scrutiny-emily-clouse-on-the-record","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/leaders-lead-even-when-it-hurts-4040372","url":"https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/tony-taylor68/episodes/Leadership-Under-Scrutiny-Emily-Clouse-On-the-Record-e3it1pi","audio_url":"https://anchor.fm/s/10982e150/podcast/play/119489778/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-4-5%2F423474543-44100-2-65daf3c5883a3.m4a","summary":"Content note: This episode includes discussion of abuse and may be sensitive for some listeners. In this episode of Leaders Lead , Tony Taylor sits down with Thurston County Commissioner Emily Clouse for an in-depth, on-the-record conversation addressing the 2024 investigation and subsequent settlement. As public scrutiny continues to shape the political landscape ahead of the next election cycle, Commissioner Clouse responds directly to questions about the investigation, her conduct, and the personal and professional fallout that followed. This long-form discussion moves beyond headlines to explore accountability, resilience, leadership under pressure, and the broader implications for local government transparency. Topics include: 1. The 2024 investigation and settlement 2. Public claims of “exoneration” and how she views the findings 3. The toll of scrutiny on public officials 4. Leadership during controversy 5. Governance, transparency, and public trust 6. The path forward as she continues in office This episode offers listeners the opportunity to hear directly from the commissioner in her own words. If any individual referenced in this episode wishes to respond or offer a rebuttal, they are invited to contact Tony and the Leaders Lead team at info@tonytaylorinspires.com . We welcome additional perspectives and are open to hearing other sides of the story. leadersleadthepodcast.com","meta_description":"Content note: This episode includes discussion of abuse and may be sensitive for some listeners. In this episode of Leaders Lead , Tony Taylor sits down w…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":6792,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/leaders-lead-even-when-it-hurts-4040372/episodes/leadership-under-scrutiny-emily-clouse-on-the-record/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/leaders-lead-even-when-it-hurts-4040372/leadership-under-scrutiny-emily-clouse-on-the-record.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}