{"podcast":{"title":"Kirsten Johnson Podcast","slug":"kirsten-johnson-podcast-6900631","podcast_index_feed_id":6900631,"rss_url":"https://feeds.captivate.fm/kirsten-johnson-podcast/","website_url":"https://www.kirsten-johnson.com/","image_url":"https://artwork.captivate.fm/d8097d9e-64e2-45d9-9574-3a23f4985283/IG-Sobriety-Bestie-ideas-24.jpg","author":"Kirsten Johnson","episode_count":199,"summary":"Kirsten Johnson Podcast is about deprogramming AA ideology and reclaiming your mind after AA indoctrination.","last_synced_at":"2026-07-29T02:20:28.378758+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/kirsten-johnson-podcast-6900631"},"episode":{"title":"Ep 192 Rockefeller and Alcoholics Anonymous with Bobby C","slug":"ep-192-rockefeller-and-alcoholics-anonymous-with-bobby-c","published_at":"2026-02-24T13:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/kirsten-johnson-podcast-6900631/ep-192-rockefeller-and-alcoholics-anonymous-with-bobby-c","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/kirsten-johnson-podcast-6900631","url":"https://www.kirsten-johnson.com/","audio_url":"https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/cef17c74-b026-439c-8235-954327a94538.mp3","summary":"Bobby C is back on Sobriety Bestie Podcast to discuss the Rockefeller and AA connection which runs deeper that you might think. Bobby C unpacks AMA, DSM, Car Jung, and both Rockefeller Jr and Rockefeller Sr along with Alcoholics Anonymous. Bobby C's YouTube Bobby C's Story Timestamps: 00:00 Rockefeller and Alcoholics Anonymous Intro 06:05 Benjamin Rush 09:21 Temperance Movement 11:46 Magnus Huss 14:41 Etymology + Words As Control 23:11 John D Rockefeller 30:57 Rockefeller Jr and Alcoholics Anonymous 39:55 Norman Jolliffe 41:24 Alcoholics Foundation and The Big Book 49:19 Carl Jung and Roland Hazard 53:35 Does It Work If You Work It? 1:01:58 Rockefeller, Hellen Wynn + AA Organization 1:07:44 Big Pharma, Big Alcohol, AMA 1:21:54 DSM-V and Substance Use Disorder 1:25:26 Indentured Servitude: A Slave To AA 1:29:49 Rockefeller Gave Dr. Bob Money Bobby C's Rockefeller Videos: https://youtu.be/HYeoI_3Bljw?si=FJ-N5C4wRguHkLbV https://youtu.be/XxW_YfkFEtQ?si=0wBr-nAZFqyTSlhC https://youtu.be/d2gEC9lzT6A?si=N1NApvG8XfYDGNRl https://youtu.be/fZ0UAHMedvQ?si=yfDTg8w9D-TUnz3g Resources for deconstructing AA: 👉 Deprogram Lounge (community, Zooms, book club, Escape Kit + more) 📚 Deprogram Book List (my fave deprogram, cult recovery and critical thinking books) 🌀 Deprogram AA Course (free your mind at your own pace) Let’s get f*cking free","meta_description":"Bobby C is back on Sobriety Bestie Podcast to discuss the Rockefeller and AA connection which runs deeper that you might think. Bobby C unpacks AMA, DSM,…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":5616,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/kirsten-johnson-podcast-6900631/episodes/ep-192-rockefeller-and-alcoholics-anonymous-with-bobby-c/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/kirsten-johnson-podcast-6900631/ep-192-rockefeller-and-alcoholics-anonymous-with-bobby-c.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}