{"podcast":{"title":"Keyboard Samurai","slug":"keyboard-samurai-7116479","podcast_index_feed_id":7116479,"rss_url":"https://anchor.fm/s/fd8390ac/podcast/rss","website_url":"https://www.wilklu.me","image_url":"https://d3t3ozftmdmh3i.cloudfront.net/staging/podcast_uploaded_nologo/42432579/42432579-1766854330515-8aa4b69ffc9d3.jpg","author":"Wil Klu","episode_count":81,"summary":"This is a podcast about the business of cyber & tech. Host Wil Klusovsky (Wil Klu) brings on guests leading the industry. We discuss topics to help businesses and individuals improve across all areas of cybersecurity. There is no product pitching, it's a contribution to the industry to help educate, inform, and maybe entertain. If you'd like to reach out to Wil for services, content, contributions, to be on the podcast or anything else visit www.wilklu.me and use the contact form. Follow wil @ linkedin.com/in/wilklu","last_synced_at":"2026-07-14T02:18:14.675631+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/keyboard-samurai-7116479"},"episode":{"title":"Patrick Sullivan - How to Govern AI Before It Governs You","slug":"patrick-sullivan-how-to-govern-ai-before-it-governs-you","published_at":"2026-03-21T20:49:33+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/keyboard-samurai-7116479/patrick-sullivan-how-to-govern-ai-before-it-governs-you","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/keyboard-samurai-7116479","url":"https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/keybdsamurai/episodes/Patrick-Sullivan---How-to-Govern-AI-Before-It-Governs-You-e3gpk5s","audio_url":"https://anchor.fm/s/fd8390ac/podcast/play/117280380/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-2-21%2F420503714-44100-2-0cd86a8720519.mp3","summary":"AI is moving faster than governance, and that gap is where risk starts to grow teeth. Wil Klu hosts Patrick Sullivan, VP of Strategy and Innovation at Align, for a sharp conversation on AI governance, shadow AI, business risk, and responsible adoption. This episode is for executives, CISOs, CIOs, GRC leaders, and business owners who know AI can create value but do not want to create chaos in the process. You’ll hear how to think about AI use cases, risk appetite, policy, training, and why business language matters if you want leadership to actually make good decisions. Key takeaways: • Why “we banned AI” is not the same thing as governance • How shadow AI shows up inside real organizations • What a legitimate business case for AI should look like • Why AI risk has to be framed in business terms, not just technical ones • How training and role-based guidance reduce ignorance and misuse • Why fast AI adoption without guardrails creates long-tail risk Follow The Keyboard Samurai for more episodes on cyber risk, executive communication, and the business realities behind modern technology. Leave a review and share this episode with the leader who thinks policy alone will keep AI in its lane. Find Patrick: https://www.linkedin.com/in/the-patrick-sullivan/","meta_description":"AI is moving faster than governance, and that gap is where risk starts to grow teeth. Wil Klu hosts Patrick Sullivan, VP of Strategy and Innovation at Ali…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":1395,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/keyboard-samurai-7116479/episodes/patrick-sullivan-how-to-govern-ai-before-it-governs-you/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/keyboard-samurai-7116479/patrick-sullivan-how-to-govern-ai-before-it-governs-you.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}