{"podcast":{"title":"Keeping It Real: Conversations with Jillian Michaels","slug":"keeping-it-real-conversations-with-jillian-michaels-407553","podcast_index_feed_id":407553,"rss_url":"https://feeds.megaphone.fm/RSV6639940368","website_url":"https://www.jillianmichaels.com/","image_url":"https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/44e661ea-b932-11f0-b681-67f1474598d1/image/36c0022c28f7e35a9786023365864486.jpeg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&max-w=3000&max-h=3000&fit=crop&auto=format,compress","author":"Jillian Michaels","episode_count":941,"summary":"Jillian Michaels is renowned for transforming lives. Her fearless honesty, passion, and extensive knowledge on health, fitness, and nutrition have made her America’s go to motivator and wellness expert for the past two decades. This new format features an impressive lineup of guests and broadens the conversation to tackle the tough topics which matter the most in helping us better understand ourselves and the world around us. Through in-depth discussions and short form content, Jillian brings valuable insights, inspiring life stories, and actionable advice from leading thinkers, innovators, and change makers in a variety of fields. Her guests aren’t just experts they’re pioneers who’ve reshaped their industries and the way we think. From medicine to mental health, groundbreaking science to current events, relationships to career she explores the frontiers of knowledge and personal development that changes lives. In an era where we’re inundated with conflicting information and compromised narratives, \"Keeping It Real\" stands out as trusted resource that informs, inspires, and empowers its audience. A forum where the power of dialogue and diverse perspectives reigns supreme and the…","last_synced_at":"2026-07-18T02:19:26.322787+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/keeping-it-real-conversations-with-jillian-michaels-407553"},"episode":{"title":"THE HARDEST CONVERSATION ON THE INTERNET: ISRAEL VS PALESTINE","slug":"the-hardest-conversation-on-the-internet-israel-vs-palestine","published_at":"2026-07-12T15:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/keeping-it-real-conversations-with-jillian-michaels-407553/the-hardest-conversation-on-the-internet-israel-vs-palestine","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/keeping-it-real-conversations-with-jillian-michaels-407553","url":"https://pdst.fm/e/mgln.ai/e/101/clrtpod.com/m/pscrb.fm/rss/p/traffic.megaphone.fm/RSV2034620610.mp3","audio_url":"https://pdst.fm/e/mgln.ai/e/101/clrtpod.com/m/pscrb.fm/rss/p/traffic.megaphone.fm/RSV2034620610.mp3","summary":"In this explosive long‑form debate, Jillian Michaels hosts Nick Matau (pro‑Israel) and Ben Burgis (pro‑Palestine) for a no‑holds‑barred clash over the most controversial questions on earth: Who really owns the land? Is a one‑state solutionwith equal rights even possible, or is the two‑state solution dead forever? Are Palestinians permanent second‑class non‑citizens under Israeli rule, and does international law actually back the “occupation” claim – or is that all propaganda? Nick Matau argues that Israel is a besieged democracy fighting for survival, defending Jewish self‑determination, security, and the legitimacy of Israeli control over Judea and Samaria/West Bank, while rejecting claims that Israel is genocidal or racist. Ben Burgis counters that Israel has effectively built a single state “from the river to the sea” where millions of Palestinians live as subjects, not citizens, comparing the system to South African apartheid and challenging the morality and legality of occupation, settlement expansion, and ethnic discrimination. Together, they dig into the Oslo Accords, Camp David, the Green Line, settlement blocs, Gaza, Jerusalem, the Hamas charter, and whether “genocide in Gaza” is a legal reality or a weaponized slogan. They argue over whether Palestinians have truly been offered a viable state, if 1967 borders matter under international law, and if granting full citizenship to millions of Palestinians would destroy the Jewish character of Israel or finally deliver justice and peace. 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