{"podcast":{"title":"Keep Talking","slug":"keep-talking-1331245","podcast_index_feed_id":1331245,"rss_url":"https://media.rss.com/humans/feed.xml","website_url":"https://rss.com/podcasts/humans","image_url":"https://media.rss.com/humans/20210520_005222_a8e19a4cd6d9a7bc6e33dc39aa33e2b3.jpg","author":"Dan Riley","episode_count":155,"summary":"\"Keep Talking\" exists to have conversations that might help to make a better society and a better culture. I believe that each guest has important information and stories to make public. And it's something that I want to share.","last_synced_at":"2026-06-20T02:20:25.098457+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/keep-talking-1331245"},"episode":{"title":"Episode 147: Mark Clifford: Why Is China Afraid of Hong Kong’s Jimmy Lai?","slug":"episode-147-mark-clifford-why-is-china-afraid-of-hong-kong-s-jimmy-lai","published_at":"2025-03-21T09:00:16+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/keep-talking-1331245/episode-147-mark-clifford-why-is-china-afraid-of-hong-kong-s-jimmy-lai","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/keep-talking-1331245","url":"https://rss.com/podcasts/humans/1948438","audio_url":"https://content.rss.com/episodes/14586/1948438/humans/2025_03_19_17_34_17_2323143c-3437-4e19-872e-d6fd87e51624.mp3","summary":"Mark Clifford is president of the Committee for Freedom in Hong Kong and the author of \"The Troublemaker: How Jimmy Lai Became a Billionaire, Hong Kong's Greatest Dissident, and China's Most Feared Critic.\" ------------ Book Dan to do an interview or a meeting ------------ Keep Talking Substack Spotify Apple Podcasts Social media and all episodes ------------ Support via Venmo Support on Substack Support on Patreon ------------ 00:00 Intro 00:57 Mark's relationship with Jimmy Lai 06:40 Jimmy's journalism in Hong Kong 10:41 The source of Jimmy's devout anti-communism 18:27 Jimmy's interest in journalism 21:35 Was Jimmy optimistic about Hong Kong's future? 24:27 China's public enemy #1 33:22 Jimmy's core principles 39:40 Lessons from Jimmy's example 44:14 Hong Kong and JImmy's future 49:47 Jimmy's eccentricities and flaws","meta_description":"Mark Clifford is president of the Committee for Freedom in Hong Kong and the author of \"The Troublemaker: How Jimmy Lai Became a Billionaire, Hong Kong's…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":3275,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/keep-talking-1331245/episodes/episode-147-mark-clifford-why-is-china-afraid-of-hong-kong-s-jimmy-lai/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/keep-talking-1331245/episode-147-mark-clifford-why-is-china-afraid-of-hong-kong-s-jimmy-lai.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}