{"podcast":{"title":"Just Justice","slug":"just-justice-7032206","podcast_index_feed_id":7032206,"rss_url":"https://feed.podbean.com/jessicahenryjustice/feed.xml","website_url":"https://jessicahenryjustice.podbean.com","image_url":"https://pbcdn1.podbean.com/imglogo/image-logo/19333971/Podcast_Cover_2000x2000_1400_x_1400_px__637dgq.png","author":"jessicahenryjustice","episode_count":48,"summary":"A podcast about criminal justice, punishment, redemption, and second chances.","last_synced_at":"2026-07-21T16:20:11.401854+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/just-justice-7032206"},"episode":{"title":"S2EP12: We Can't Afford It, with Zoë Towns, Executive Director of FWD.US","slug":"s2ep12-we-can-t-afford-it-with-zo-towns-executive-director-of-fwd-us","published_at":"2025-07-08T07:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/just-justice-7032206/s2ep12-we-can-t-afford-it-with-zo-towns-executive-director-of-fwd-us","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/just-justice-7032206","url":"https://jessicahenryjustice.podbean.com/e/we-cant-afford-it-with-zoe-towns-executive-director-of-fwdus/","audio_url":"https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/pxb367zjkkrhkimc/Zoe_Towns_episode_FULL_EPISODE72f1u.mp3","summary":"Ever wonder what mass incarceration really costs us—not just in terms of dollars, but in lost opportunities, strained families, and long-term economic impact? Spoiler: it’s a lot more than you think. In this episode, I sit down with Zoë Towns, Executive Director of FWD.us, to unpack the eye-opening findings from their report We Can’t Afford It: Mass Incarceration and the Family Tax. We break down the staggering financial burden of the prison system and explore what a better, more equitable future could look like. This is a conversation you won’t want to miss. To find out more about Zoë Towns and the work of FWD.US: go to https://www.fwd.us/ To read their groundbreaking report, go to: https://www.wecantaffordit.us/ To learn more about Jessica Henry and Just Justice, go to www.jessicahenryjustice.com.","meta_description":"Ever wonder what mass incarceration really costs us—not just in terms of dollars, but in lost opportunities, strained families, and long-term economic imp…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":2696,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/just-justice-7032206/episodes/s2ep12-we-can-t-afford-it-with-zo-towns-executive-director-of-fwd-us/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/just-justice-7032206/s2ep12-we-can-t-afford-it-with-zo-towns-executive-director-of-fwd-us.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}