{"podcast":{"title":"Jesuitical","slug":"jesuitical-1116545","podcast_index_feed_id":1116545,"rss_url":"https://feeds.megaphone.fm/AMMD2442073612","website_url":"https://www.americamagazine.org/jesuiticalshow","image_url":"https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/7da8032e-1e25-11eb-809b-33879b279c21/image/ee1b6ac753e4894598a91ab89e271faa.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&max-w=3000&max-h=3000&fit=crop&auto=format,compress","author":"America Media","episode_count":442,"summary":"Welcome to Jesuitical, a podcast for young Catholics hosted by two young, lay editors at America—Zac Davis and Ashley McKinless. Each episode features a guest who offers a unique perspective on faith, culture or current events. We also bring you some of the top (and maybe more obscure) Catholic news of the week. And we'll ask: Where do we find God in all this?","last_synced_at":"2026-06-04T14:20:13.574836+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/jesuitical-1116545"},"episode":{"title":"President Trump won’t win his battle with Pope Leo","slug":"president-trump-won-t-win-his-battle-with-pope-leo","published_at":"2026-04-16T04:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/jesuitical-1116545/president-trump-won-t-win-his-battle-with-pope-leo","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/jesuitical-1116545","url":"https://www.americamagazine.org/subscribe","audio_url":"https://traffic.megaphone.fm/AMMD3525088358.mp3?updated=1776288346","summary":"This week on “Jesuitical,” Ashley and Zac speak with John Carr, founder of Georgetown University’s Initiative on Catholic Social Thought and Public Life. In “Signs of the Times,” a cross-promotion of America’s roundtable discussion between Ashley, Sam Sawyer, S.J., the president and editor in chief, and Colleen Dulle, Vatican correspondent and co-host of “Inside the Vatican,” on President Trump’s unprecedented social media attack on Pope Leo XIV. 00:00 President Trump's words for Pope Leo 1:55 Pope Leo's criticism of war 3:14 Pope Leo's response to Trump 5:26 U.S. Bishops respond to Trump 6:22 Reactions to Trump's tirade 8:03 Did Trump influence Leo's election? 11:00 Don't take the President's bait 14:40 Impact on U.S.-Vatican relations 19:10 John Carr wanted to be a priest and a senator 21:25 Catholic teaching on mass deportations 30:32 Catholic social teaching is a long, reliable tradition 37:05 Is social justice redeemable? 47:10 How money influences Catholic priorities 50:13 First impressions of Pope Leo Links for further reading: John Carr: Lessons from 50 years at the intersection of Catholic social teaching and public life Reactions: President Trump lashes out at Pope Leo XIV Trump is trying to distract us from Pope Leo’s calls for peace. Don’t take the bait. Trump lambasts Pope Leo: ‘I’m not a fan.’ You can follow us on X and on Instagram @jesuiticalshow. You can find us on Facebook at facebook.com/groups/jesuitical. Please consider supporting Jesuitical by becoming a digital subscriber to America magazine at americamagazine.org/subscribe Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices","meta_description":"This week on “Jesuitical,” Ashley and Zac speak with John Carr, founder of Georgetown University’s Initiative on Catholic Social Thought and Public Life.…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":3557,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/jesuitical-1116545/episodes/president-trump-won-t-win-his-battle-with-pope-leo/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/jesuitical-1116545/president-trump-won-t-win-his-battle-with-pope-leo.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}