{"podcast":{"title":"JACOBIN Podcast","slug":"jacobin-podcast-6754014","podcast_index_feed_id":6754014,"rss_url":"https://jacobinpodcast.podigee.io/feed/mp3","website_url":"https://jacobin.de/","image_url":"https://images.podigee-cdn.net/0x,sa2TvHD127yqDyRqYNyhHBojEtraOK3A29P-aXzeuZDQ=/https://main.podigee-cdn.net/uploads/u8179/0c603f02-e039-4a28-b9f1-b3538c458050.jpg","author":"JACOBIN Magazin","episode_count":500,"summary":"Antworten auf die drängenden Fragen unserer Zeit. Unsere besten Texte täglich zum Hören. Abonniere das JACOBIN Magazin und richte eine regelmäßige Spende auf www.jacobin.de/podcast ein.","last_synced_at":null,"page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/jacobin-podcast-6754014"},"episode":{"title":"»Wenn Menschen sich dem Krieg verweigern, dann werden Kriege unmöglich« – Interview mit Özlem Demirel","slug":"wenn-menschen-sich-dem-krieg-verweigern-dann-werden-kriege-unm-glich-interview-mit-zlem-demirel","published_at":"2026-05-08T05:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/jacobin-podcast-6754014/wenn-menschen-sich-dem-krieg-verweigern-dann-werden-kriege-unm-glich-interview-mit-zlem-demirel","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/jacobin-podcast-6754014","url":"https://jacobinpodcast.podigee.io/750-wenn-menschen-sich-dem-krieg-verweigern-dann-werden-kriege-unmoglich-interview-mit-ozlem-demirel","audio_url":"https://audio.podigee-cdn.net/2483062-m-a7706f60db116221ac32d6c52aca7832.mp3?source=feed","summary":"Özlem Demirel argues that the Linke party must bridge the gap between anti-militarism and class politics to prevent social erosion. She advocates for mobilizing the working class against the rising costs of military expansion and the threat of nationalist populism.","meta_description":"Özlem Demirel discusses the Linke's leadership bid, the link between military spending and social cuts, and the power of internationalist resistance.","key_points":["Main idea: Military expansion, such as the procurement of naval frigates, directly threatens social welfare and housing stability","Failure mode: The rise of right-wing populism is driven by political resignation and the failure of mainstream parties to address economic interests","Practical takeaway: Leftist organizing must move beyond academic circles and embed itself directly within industrial workplaces","Main idea: True internationalism requires building connections with progressive movements in the US, China, and the Middle East to oppose imperialist trends","Strategic goal: Preventing global conflict depends on the ability of populations to actively refuse and obstruct the machinery of war"],"chapters":[{"start_ms":60000,"title":"The Linke's Identity Crisis","summary":"An analysis of the party's struggle to balance opposition politics with its role in foreign policy debates."},{"start_ms":160000,"title":"The Cost of Rearmament","summary":"Demirel explains her candidacy and the direct link between military spending and the dismantling of social achievements."},{"start_ms":280000,"title":"Personal Politics and Identity","summary":"A discussion on the impact of migration, racism, and personal history on political perspective."},{"start_ms":380000,"title":"The Challenge of Anti-Militarism","summary":"Addressing why the party struggles to project its anti-imperialist and anti-militarist positions externally."},{"start_ms":490000,"title":"Mobilizing Against Social Cuts","summary":"The necessity of highlighting the connection between defense budgets and the erosion of the welfare state."},{"start_ms":590000,"title":"Organizing the Working Class","summary":"Moving away from 'salon socialism' toward active presence and structural organization within companies."},{"start_ms":700000,"title":"Countering Right-Wing Populism","summary":"How to combat nationalist narratives and the AfD's growing influence in labor sectors."}],"topics":["Linke Party","Anti-militarism","Class Politics","Military Spending","European Union","Labor Organizing","Internationalism","Social Welfare"],"duration_seconds":1434,"processing_state":"processed","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/jacobin-podcast-6754014/episodes/wenn-menschen-sich-dem-krieg-verweigern-dann-werden-kriege-unm-glich-interview-mit-zlem-demirel/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/jacobin-podcast-6754014/wenn-menschen-sich-dem-krieg-verweigern-dann-werden-kriege-unm-glich-interview-mit-zlem-demirel.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}