{"podcast":{"title":"It Gets Late Early","slug":"it-gets-late-early-6096744","podcast_index_feed_id":6096744,"rss_url":"https://feeds.captivate.fm/it-gets-late-early/","website_url":"https://www.itgetslateearly.com/","image_url":"https://artwork.captivate.fm/dc4d6575-9642-4d43-94d5-225572b5cd9f/2026-IGLE-COVER-FINAL.png","author":"Maureen Wiley Clough","episode_count":73,"summary":"Have you ever looked around at work and realized you might be one of the oldest people in the room—and you’re not even 40 yet? It Gets Late Early is a show about what’s really happening to experienced workers as the rules of work change. We dig into layoffs dressed up as AI strategy, side hustles and portfolio careers, the quiet rise of workplace ageism, and the (sometimes harsh) reality of building a career in midlife and beyond. We connect the dots between corporate decisions, economic forces, and the real lives of people navigating a changing world of work to help make sense of it all…because the career playbook we all followed was for a game no one can win anymore. You’ll hear honest conversations, expert insights, and practical advice for people trying to figure out what comes next—all wrapped up in a healthy dose of dark humor. Because sometimes you have to laugh so you don’t cry. Hosted by Maureen Wiley Clough—corporate dropout and ex-journalist who won’t quit telling the truth about work.","last_synced_at":"2026-06-10T02:19:57.969761+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/it-gets-late-early-6096744"},"episode":{"title":"Kelly Stonelake Tried to Protect Kids at Meta. They Fired Her Instead","slug":"kelly-stonelake-tried-to-protect-kids-at-meta-they-fired-her-instead","published_at":"2025-06-24T12:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/it-gets-late-early-6096744/kelly-stonelake-tried-to-protect-kids-at-meta-they-fired-her-instead","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/it-gets-late-early-6096744","url":"https://www.itgetslateearly.com/","audio_url":"https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/3c50d77d-740f-4c8f-93f7-476c4328d4e1.mp3","summary":"Have you ever felt trapped in a system that’s supposed to empower you but instead chips away at your well-being? In today’s episode, I’m sitting down with Kelly Stonelake, a former Meta executive who’s blowing the whistle on what’s happening behind the scenes at one of the world’s most powerful tech giants.  From battling toxic corporate culture to confronting racial issues in virtual spaces, Kelly’s story isn’t just about one woman standing up - it’s about exposing the systemic issues that hold women back in the corporate workplace and getting all of us to fight for a safer, more accountable tech industry. If you’ve ever felt the weight of corporate silence or been pushed to the brink in a system that’s more about profit than people, this conversation serves as an eye-opener. Kelly opens up about her time at Meta and the deeply toxic corporate culture she experienced, which led to her risking it all by taking on the company with a high-profile lawsuit. She reveals her fight to hold Meta accountable for the harm done, particularly to vulnerable users. As a former senior executive, Kelly sheds light on the urgent need for corporate accountability in an environment that prioritizes growth over people’s well-being, and how her treatment after speaking out about racial and cultural issues within Meta eventually led to her whistleblowing. If you're interested in the human side of big tech and how systems of power perpetuate harm, this episode is a must-listen. Tune in to hear Kelly’s remarkable journey and discover how she’s taking a stand for change, even when it comes at great personal cost. Two small corrections from Kelly: \"After listening back, two quick clarifications to my comments in the spirit of accuracy. I said it is illegal for companies to collect data on…","meta_description":"Have you ever felt trapped in a system that’s supposed to empower you but instead chips away at your well-being? In today’s episode, I’m sitting down with…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":4438,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/it-gets-late-early-6096744/episodes/kelly-stonelake-tried-to-protect-kids-at-meta-they-fired-her-instead/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/it-gets-late-early-6096744/kelly-stonelake-tried-to-protect-kids-at-meta-they-fired-her-instead.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}