{"podcast":{"title":"It Gets Late Early","slug":"it-gets-late-early-6096744","podcast_index_feed_id":6096744,"rss_url":"https://feeds.captivate.fm/it-gets-late-early/","website_url":"https://www.itgetslateearly.com/","image_url":"https://artwork.captivate.fm/dc4d6575-9642-4d43-94d5-225572b5cd9f/2026-IGLE-COVER-FINAL.png","author":"Maureen Wiley Clough","episode_count":73,"summary":"Have you ever looked around at work and realized you might be one of the oldest people in the room—and you’re not even 40 yet? It Gets Late Early is a show about what’s really happening to experienced workers as the rules of work change. We dig into layoffs dressed up as AI strategy, side hustles and portfolio careers, the quiet rise of workplace ageism, and the (sometimes harsh) reality of building a career in midlife and beyond. We connect the dots between corporate decisions, economic forces, and the real lives of people navigating a changing world of work to help make sense of it all…because the career playbook we all followed was for a game no one can win anymore. You’ll hear honest conversations, expert insights, and practical advice for people trying to figure out what comes next—all wrapped up in a healthy dose of dark humor. Because sometimes you have to laugh so you don’t cry. Hosted by Maureen Wiley Clough—corporate dropout and ex-journalist who won’t quit telling the truth about work.","last_synced_at":"2026-06-10T02:19:57.969761+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/it-gets-late-early-6096744"},"episode":{"title":"How to Fix Your Dumpster Fire Interview Process With Lorna Erickson and Victoria Gates","slug":"how-to-fix-your-dumpster-fire-interview-process-with-lorna-erickson-and-victoria-gates","published_at":"2025-06-10T12:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/it-gets-late-early-6096744/how-to-fix-your-dumpster-fire-interview-process-with-lorna-erickson-and-victoria-gates","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/it-gets-late-early-6096744","url":"https://www.itgetslateearly.com/","audio_url":"https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/1160df84-595f-4225-b046-121488d1055a.mp3","summary":"Let’s get real: hiring today is a mess. I’ve been there both as a candidate and as the interviewer who wasn’t properly trained. So, when I discovered Lorna Erickson and Victoria Gates, two women who are revolutionizing the corporate interviewing landscape, I knew we had to have them on the show. In this episode, we dive into the shocking state of interviews today - from the mundane but outdated, biased questions that are still being asked to the absolute trainwreck moments that are happening at the table. Like a hiring manager who thought it was a good idea to ask a candidate to sell a dirty old shoe, sort of a creative take on that age-old sales question, “sell me this pen.” Yeah, you’ll want to hear this story. But it’s not all doom and gloom! Lorna and Victoria share how they transitioned from the corporate world into entrepreneurship, using their combined expertise to help businesses and hiring managers learn how to conduct effective interviews without inadvertently violating the law (yes, asking about holiday plans to try to figure out if a candidate is a parent is illegal). They’ve been able to show incredible results for their clients, underscoring how getting the interview process right brings a massive, lasting impact. They’ve been there, and they’re showing others how to do it right. Of course, we can’t talk about interviewing without touching on ageism, something that has been a problem for both older and younger candidates. We discuss how unconscious bias shows up in interviews and how companies need to adopt a broader perspective. Spoiler alert: it’s not just about hiring people you can grab beers with. And the best part? They share their golden rule of interviewing, and trust me, if companies started following it, it would completely shift the hiring…","meta_description":"Let’s get real: hiring today is a mess. I’ve been there both as a candidate and as the interviewer who wasn’t properly trained. So, when I discovered Lorn…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":2951,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/it-gets-late-early-6096744/episodes/how-to-fix-your-dumpster-fire-interview-process-with-lorna-erickson-and-victoria-gates/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/it-gets-late-early-6096744/how-to-fix-your-dumpster-fire-interview-process-with-lorna-erickson-and-victoria-gates.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}