{"podcast":{"title":"It Gets Late Early","slug":"it-gets-late-early-6096744","podcast_index_feed_id":6096744,"rss_url":"https://feeds.captivate.fm/it-gets-late-early/","website_url":"https://www.itgetslateearly.com/","image_url":"https://artwork.captivate.fm/dc4d6575-9642-4d43-94d5-225572b5cd9f/2026-IGLE-COVER-FINAL.png","author":"Maureen Wiley Clough","episode_count":73,"summary":"Have you ever looked around at work and realized you might be one of the oldest people in the room—and you’re not even 40 yet? It Gets Late Early is a show about what’s really happening to experienced workers as the rules of work change. We dig into layoffs dressed up as AI strategy, side hustles and portfolio careers, the quiet rise of workplace ageism, and the (sometimes harsh) reality of building a career in midlife and beyond. We connect the dots between corporate decisions, economic forces, and the real lives of people navigating a changing world of work to help make sense of it all…because the career playbook we all followed was for a game no one can win anymore. You’ll hear honest conversations, expert insights, and practical advice for people trying to figure out what comes next—all wrapped up in a healthy dose of dark humor. Because sometimes you have to laugh so you don’t cry. Hosted by Maureen Wiley Clough—corporate dropout and ex-journalist who won’t quit telling the truth about work.","last_synced_at":"2026-06-10T02:19:57.969761+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/it-gets-late-early-6096744"},"episode":{"title":"Fired and Diagnosed With Cancer: How Daniel Incandela Rebuilt His Life","slug":"fired-and-diagnosed-with-cancer-how-daniel-incandela-rebuilt-his-life","published_at":"2025-08-05T12:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/it-gets-late-early-6096744/fired-and-diagnosed-with-cancer-how-daniel-incandela-rebuilt-his-life","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/it-gets-late-early-6096744","url":"https://www.itgetslateearly.com/","audio_url":"https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/47a64bab-411a-484a-9718-be4b433b60da.mp3","summary":"Losing a job is never easy, but what if it led to a more fulfilling path? Daniel Incandela, former CMO, opens up about the painful yet transformative experience of being fired in his 50s. In this episode, he shares the emotional toll it took, how he navigated the challenges, and the powerful lessons he learned along the way. Today, I sit down with my good friend, Daniel Incandela, who, like many of us, faced the harsh reality of burnout and being let go. His story is one of resilience and transformation. Despite the painful blow of being fired, Daniel reflects on how the experience helped him realign his priorities, focusing on family, health, and ultimately finding his path forward through consulting and creative work. We discuss the importance of reflection and accountability, even in the most challenging moments. Daniel’s journey sheds light on how career paths don’t always go as planned, and how the pressure to “do it all” can weigh heavily on us. From navigating ageism in a competitive job market to embracing AI as a necessary tool for today’s workforce, Daniel discusses how he’s finding purpose in his new role and working towards a future that aligns more with his values. If you’ve ever felt like your career took an unexpected turn, this episode is for you. Daniel’s story is a powerful reminder that we can find clarity even in moments of doubt. “I've been on this journey that I think I really needed in life, and it has helped me awaken from things I did not see.”  ~ Daniel Incandela In This Episode: -Daniel’s transition from CMO to consultant -Embracing change and realizing what really matters -Leadership in the time of AI -The reality of getting fired in your 50s -Experiencing the immense benefits of slowing down -Looking ahead: the future of work in a gig…","meta_description":"Losing a job is never easy, but what if it led to a more fulfilling path? Daniel Incandela, former CMO, opens up about the painful yet transformative expe…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":2374,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/it-gets-late-early-6096744/episodes/fired-and-diagnosed-with-cancer-how-daniel-incandela-rebuilt-his-life/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/it-gets-late-early-6096744/fired-and-diagnosed-with-cancer-how-daniel-incandela-rebuilt-his-life.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}