{"podcast":{"title":"Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy","slug":"invest-like-the-best","podcast_index_feed_id":982387,"rss_url":"https://feeds.megaphone.fm/CLS2859450455","website_url":"https://colossus.com/","image_url":"https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/ef669774-cccd-11ed-889b-c36caad6646f/image/158efdddfb983d2678b3530d484e8aa2.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&max-w=3000&max-h=3000&fit=crop&auto=format,compress","author":"Colossus","episode_count":597,"summary":"Conversations with the best investors and business leaders in the world. We explore their ideas, methods, and stories to help you better invest your time and money. Hear stock market and boardroom insights you can't find anywhere else. If you're a professional investor, CEO, entrepreneur, or business strategist, this is for you. Explore all our episodes and learn more at https://www.colossus.com","last_synced_at":"2026-09-16T16:19:55.639789+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/invest-like-the-best"},"episode":{"title":"Matthew Smith — Natural Gas: The Next Bottleneck - [Invest Like the Best, EP.483]","slug":"matthew-smith-natural-gas-the-next-bottleneck-invest-like-the-best-ep-483","published_at":"2026-07-21T08:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/invest-like-the-best/matthew-smith-natural-gas-the-next-bottleneck-invest-like-the-best-ep-483","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/invest-like-the-best","url":"https://colossus.com/episode/americas-next-energy-crisis/","audio_url":"https://traffic.megaphone.fm/CLS1352215254.mp3","summary":"My guest today is Matthew Smith. Matthew is the founder and CIO of Chronometer Partners, which invests in energy, industrials, materials, power and utilities, and related infrastructure. For the last 18 months he and his team have modeled nearly every natural gas well, pipeline, and processing asset in the United States. He's reached a conclusion most of the market doesn't share.&nbsp; Starting in 2028, AI data centers and LNG exports will need more gas than the country can produce and deliver. By his math, the US could exhaust its working natural gas storage by 2030. In his words, the upside risk to prices becomes unbounded and convex. We talk about why this was set in motion long before AI arrived, why the US can't just turn off exports, who wins and loses among producers, nuclear, solar, and the hyperscalers, and what he sees as the only long-term solution. Please enjoy my conversation with Matthew Smith. For the full show notes, transcript, and links to mentioned content, check out the episode page ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.&nbsp; ----- In June, Matthew wrote a letter to a small group of confidants laying out the full case behind his natural gas forecast. He has allowed us to publish it. You can read the full letter here. ----- Become a Colossus member to get our quarterly print magazine and private audio experience, including exclusive profiles and early access to select episodes. Subscribe at ⁠colossus.com/subscribe⁠. ----- ⁠Ramp’s⁠ mission is to help companies manage their spend in a way that reduces expenses and frees up time for teams to work on more valuable projects. Go to⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠ramp.com/invest⁠⁠ to sign up for free and get a $250 welcome bonus. ----- Trusted by thousands of businesses, ⁠Vanta⁠ continuously monitors your security posture and s…","meta_description":"My guest today is Matthew Smith. Matthew is the founder and CIO of Chronometer Partners, which invests in energy, industrials, materials, power and utilit…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":3397,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/invest-like-the-best/episodes/matthew-smith-natural-gas-the-next-bottleneck-invest-like-the-best-ep-483/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/invest-like-the-best/matthew-smith-natural-gas-the-next-bottleneck-invest-like-the-best-ep-483.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}