{"podcast":{"title":"Interesting Times with Ross Douthat","slug":"interesting-times-with-ross-douthat-440457","podcast_index_feed_id":440457,"rss_url":"https://feeds.simplecast.com/2xzUiHxw","website_url":"https://www.nytimes.com/column/matter-of-opinion","image_url":"https://image.simplecastcdn.com/images/4105a47a-42e5-4ccc-887a-832af7989986/1755eb11-344c-4732-bac7-d1a5daafb473/3000x3000/nyt-rossdouthat-albumart-3000px.jpg?aid=rss_feed","author":"New York Times Opinion","episode_count":67,"summary":"The first draft of our future. Mapping the new world order through interviews and conversations. Every Thursday, from New York Times Opinion. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.","last_synced_at":null,"page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/interesting-times-with-ross-douthat-440457"},"episode":{"title":"Does the Iran War Put America First?","slug":"does-the-iran-war-put-america-first","published_at":"2026-03-05T10:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/interesting-times-with-ross-douthat-440457/does-the-iran-war-put-america-first","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/interesting-times-with-ross-douthat-440457","url":"https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/05/opinion/does-the-iran-war-put-america-first.html","audio_url":"https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/pfx.vpixl.com/6qj4J/nyt.simplecastaudio.com/1fe58c15-392f-4bd2-9c69-5e2935220d3c/episodes/942f272b-4405-4ec5-b6fa-ee6c99289013/audio/128/default.mp3?aid=rss_feed&awCollectionId=1fe58c15-392f-4bd2-9c69-5e2935220d3c&awEpisodeId=942f272b-4405-4ec5-b6fa-ee6c99289013&feed=2xzUiHxw","summary":"I don’t think a war with Iran is what Trump — or his voters — had in mind when he campaigned on “America first.” My guest this week is Curt Mills, the executive director of The American Conservative, a magazine that champions foreign policy restraint. Mills thinks the war with Iran is a major betrayal of the voters who put Trump in the White House and has the potential to shatter Trump’s domestic coalition.","meta_description":"I don’t think a war with Iran is what Trump — or his voters — had in mind when he campaigned on “America first.” My guest this week is Curt Mills, the exe…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":3527,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/interesting-times-with-ross-douthat-440457/episodes/does-the-iran-war-put-america-first/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/interesting-times-with-ross-douthat-440457/does-the-iran-war-put-america-first.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}