{"podcast":{"title":"Interesting Times with Ross Douthat","slug":"interesting-times-with-ross-douthat-440457","podcast_index_feed_id":440457,"rss_url":"https://feeds.simplecast.com/2xzUiHxw","website_url":"https://www.nytimes.com/column/matter-of-opinion","image_url":"https://image.simplecastcdn.com/images/4105a47a-42e5-4ccc-887a-832af7989986/1755eb11-344c-4732-bac7-d1a5daafb473/3000x3000/nyt-rossdouthat-albumart-3000px.jpg?aid=rss_feed","author":"New York Times Opinion","episode_count":67,"summary":"The first draft of our future. Mapping the new world order through interviews and conversations. Every Thursday, from New York Times Opinion. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.","last_synced_at":null,"page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/interesting-times-with-ross-douthat-440457"},"episode":{"title":"China's Not the Problem. We Are.","slug":"china-s-not-the-problem-we-are","published_at":"2026-05-14T09:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/interesting-times-with-ross-douthat-440457/china-s-not-the-problem-we-are","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/interesting-times-with-ross-douthat-440457","url":"https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/14/opinion/china-trump-ai-xi.html","audio_url":"https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/pfx.vpixl.com/6qj4J/nyt.simplecastaudio.com/1fe58c15-392f-4bd2-9c69-5e2935220d3c/episodes/2bf92024-68bc-460a-be8a-f94d2e433dee/audio/128/default.mp3?aid=rss_feed&awCollectionId=1fe58c15-392f-4bd2-9c69-5e2935220d3c&awEpisodeId=2bf92024-68bc-460a-be8a-f94d2e433dee&feed=2xzUiHxw","summary":"The United States and China are really the only two countries that matter right now in shaping the A.I. future. As President Trump and President Xi Jinping meet in Beijing, there’s a kind of Cold War atmosphere, with people talking about an A.I. arms race. But who is winning? Are we even in a race at all? Kyle Chan, a foreign policy fellow at the Brookings Institution, says it’s hard to call it a race because the U.S. and China have very different A.I. goals.","meta_description":"The United States and China are really the only two countries that matter right now in shaping the A.I. future. As President Trump and President Xi Jinpin…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":3188,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/interesting-times-with-ross-douthat-440457/episodes/china-s-not-the-problem-we-are/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/interesting-times-with-ross-douthat-440457/china-s-not-the-problem-we-are.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}