{"podcast":{"title":"Interchange Recharged","slug":"interchange-recharged-1117793","podcast_index_feed_id":1117793,"rss_url":"https://rss.art19.com/the-interchange","website_url":"https://www.woodmac.com/market-insights/types/podcasts/the-interchange/","image_url":"https://content.production.cdn.art19.com/images/b6/56/1c/53/b6561c53-206c-4247-a10b-24ba827509b0/c2860f4a864766abfde003250fb48d283b0bd02e55fd77f8d26e983ada7d82f5ccf8d280d42ff7eadf18b30e0ac0b9005c949c6efcc5f5c4f73f1d69c44a3e15.jpeg","author":"Wood Mackenzie","episode_count":354,"summary":"Clean tech, green finance and energy innovation are the three lanes on the road to a successful global energy transition. At the intersection of these lanes is a place where ideas on finance, technology and policy are shared and debated. That intersection is Interchange Recharged. Your host is Sylvia Leyva Martinez, principal analyst and research director at Wood Mackenzie. When Sylvia isn't tracking the technologies and markets driving the build-out of renewable power, she's speaking with visionaries, entrepreneurs, policy-makers and energy analysts to explore the newest developments in renewable technology, explain the ideas on global energy policy that could accelerate the energy transition, and identify new funding and financial models that could solve the biggest challenges we face on the way to net zero. Sylvia and her guests bring you data and forecasts on clean technology, climate science, and offer predictions on the build out of utility-scale projects and the future of green finance. What does the surge in data-centre demand mean for the grid, and who pays for it? What's happening in global EV adoption and development? What's the forecast for solar, one of the major succ…","last_synced_at":"2026-09-16T02:19:58.805362+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/interchange-recharged-1117793"},"episode":{"title":"The muscle we forgot: SMRs, hyperscalers, and why this nuclear renaissance might actually be different","slug":"the-muscle-we-forgot-smrs-hyperscalers-and-why-this-nuclear-renaissance-might-actually-be-different","published_at":"2026-03-24T12:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/interchange-recharged-1117793/the-muscle-we-forgot-smrs-hyperscalers-and-why-this-nuclear-renaissance-might-actually-be-different","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/interchange-recharged-1117793","url":"https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/rss.art19.com/episodes/0f678573-105f-4373-9fc9-09ce2fa6865a.mp3?rss_browser=BAhJIg90cmFuc2NyaWJyBjoGRVQ%3D--952c5701c84ad333c69d5faa668f8177091704f0","audio_url":"https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/rss.art19.com/episodes/0f678573-105f-4373-9fc9-09ce2fa6865a.mp3?rss_browser=BAhJIg90cmFuc2NyaWJyBjoGRVQ%3D--952c5701c84ad333c69d5faa668f8177091704f0","summary":"Why nuclear has never been project financed and how that might finally be about to change. Every nuclear plant ever built has ultimately been backstopped by taxpayers or ratepayers. Not because the technology doesn't work, but because nobody has ever cracked the construction cost and schedule problem well enough to convince a bank to finance it without government support. Bridget van Dorsten is joined by Jake Jurewicz, Co-founder and CEO of Blue Energy, to explore why that has been so hard and what a credible path to fixing it might actually look like. Jake walks through the root cause of nuclear's cost overrun problem and it is not the reactor. The reactor equipment itself represents around 7% of total project costs. The real problem is what Jake calls nuclear construction overhead: the cost of mobilizing, training, and retaining the 10,000 or so skilled workers needed to build these plants in the field, the way we have been building them for 70 years, essentially the same way you would build a castle. The episode then turns to what Blue Energy is doing differently. By intentionally selecting sites accessible by barge and contracting existing oil and gas fabrication yards and shipyards to build large pre-assembled modules offsite, Blue Energy aims to bring fixed-price contracts into nuclear for the first time, the same contracting structure that made offshore wind and LNG bankable. Jake explains why that single shift changes everything for project financing. Bridget and Jake also work through the demand side of the equation: why hyperscalers are becoming the crucial beachhead market for new nuclear, what binding PPAs from investment-grade counterparties actually signal versus announcements, and why the restarts and uprates, while valuable, only go so far. The conversa…","meta_description":"Why nuclear has never been project financed and how that might finally be about to change. 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