{"podcast":{"title":"Interchange Recharged","slug":"interchange-recharged-1117793","podcast_index_feed_id":1117793,"rss_url":"https://rss.art19.com/the-interchange","website_url":"https://www.woodmac.com/market-insights/types/podcasts/the-interchange/","image_url":"https://content.production.cdn.art19.com/images/b6/56/1c/53/b6561c53-206c-4247-a10b-24ba827509b0/c2860f4a864766abfde003250fb48d283b0bd02e55fd77f8d26e983ada7d82f5ccf8d280d42ff7eadf18b30e0ac0b9005c949c6efcc5f5c4f73f1d69c44a3e15.jpeg","author":"Wood Mackenzie","episode_count":354,"summary":"Clean tech, green finance and energy innovation are the three lanes on the road to a successful global energy transition. At the intersection of these lanes is a place where ideas on finance, technology and policy are shared and debated. That intersection is Interchange Recharged. Your host is Sylvia Leyva Martinez, principal analyst and research director at Wood Mackenzie. When Sylvia isn't tracking the technologies and markets driving the build-out of renewable power, she's speaking with visionaries, entrepreneurs, policy-makers and energy analysts to explore the newest developments in renewable technology, explain the ideas on global energy policy that could accelerate the energy transition, and identify new funding and financial models that could solve the biggest challenges we face on the way to net zero. Sylvia and her guests bring you data and forecasts on clean technology, climate science, and offer predictions on the build out of utility-scale projects and the future of green finance. What does the surge in data-centre demand mean for the grid, and who pays for it? What's happening in global EV adoption and development? What's the forecast for solar, one of the major succ…","last_synced_at":"2026-09-16T02:19:58.805362+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/interchange-recharged-1117793"},"episode":{"title":"The grid nobody planned for: public power, hyperscalers and the race to rewire America for the AI age","slug":"the-grid-nobody-planned-for-public-power-hyperscalers-and-the-race-to-rewire-america-for-the-ai-age","published_at":"2026-03-10T00:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/interchange-recharged-1117793/the-grid-nobody-planned-for-public-power-hyperscalers-and-the-race-to-rewire-america-for-the-ai-age","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/interchange-recharged-1117793","url":"https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/rss.art19.com/episodes/df68f1ee-d1ce-4be9-8c50-411cec63ec2a.mp3?rss_browser=BAhJIg90cmFuc2NyaWJyBjoGRVQ%3D--952c5701c84ad333c69d5faa668f8177091704f0","audio_url":"https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/rss.art19.com/episodes/df68f1ee-d1ce-4be9-8c50-411cec63ec2a.mp3?rss_browser=BAhJIg90cmFuc2NyaWJyBjoGRVQ%3D--952c5701c84ad333c69d5faa668f8177091704f0","summary":"What two decades of flat demand means for a grid now expected to double in size The US went from essentially zero load growth for twenty years to 3% national growth almost overnight. The supply chains, permitting pipelines, engineering workforce and regulatory processes were all calibrated for a different world. Bridget van Dorsten is joined by Tom Falcone, President of the Large Public Power Council, representing the 30 largest publicly owned utilities in the United States, collectively owning around 85% of public power assets and currently serving roughly 18% of all US data centre load.   Tom explains what makes public power structurally different from investor-owned utilities: locally governed, not-for-profit, and built to minimise cost rather than earn a return on equity. That governance model turns out to matter a great deal when trillion-dollar hyperscalers come looking for power. Public power utilities have no financial incentive to favour their own assets over a customer's, and their local accountability makes deal-making faster and more direct.   Bridget and Tom also work through the mechanics of how the industry is actually responding. Large-load tariffs are reshaping the interconnection queue, forcing hyperscalers to make long-term financial commitments rather than reserving capacity for free. About two thirds of speculative requests disappear once real commitments are required, which tells you something about the gap between announced demand and real demand. LPPC members are nonetheless planning to add around 60GW of new generation over the next ten years to meet load that is forecast to grow from 4GW to 18GW of data centres in their territories alone, in just five years.   The episode also tackles private use rules, a Treasury regulation fro…","meta_description":"What two decades of flat demand means for a grid now expected to double in size The US went from essentially zero load growth for twenty years to 3% natio…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":3880,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/interchange-recharged-1117793/episodes/the-grid-nobody-planned-for-public-power-hyperscalers-and-the-race-to-rewire-america-for-the-ai-age/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/interchange-recharged-1117793/the-grid-nobody-planned-for-public-power-hyperscalers-and-the-race-to-rewire-america-for-the-ai-age.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}