{"podcast":{"title":"Innerspace: Deep, Meaningful Conversations with Brett Kaufman","slug":"innerspace-deep-meaningful-conversations-with-brett-kaufman-185648","podcast_index_feed_id":185648,"rss_url":"https://feeds.redcircle.com/a6c4dc2c-7446-41ac-b924-cf675d587844","website_url":"https://redcircle.com/shows/joininnerspace","image_url":"https://media.redcircle.com/images/2026/7/20/17/5581154c-c871-45cd-8424-17475d55cfdb_2026_innerspace.jpg","author":"Brett Kaufman","episode_count":249,"summary":"Innerspace is a space for reflection, awareness, and lived experience. Through calm, grounded conversations with Brett Kaufman, the show explores what happens beneath the surface, the inner signals, transitions, and moments of clarity that shape how we move through the world. Entrepreneur, philanthropist, and real estate developer Brett Kaufman leads these conversations with a deep sense of curiosity to help us better understand the failures, successes, traumas and achievements that shape us all. Brett creates a safe space for guests to share their life journey, including their childhood and family dynamics, digging into how those experiences played an integral role into where they are today and how they now use those lessons to act in service of others.","last_synced_at":"2026-09-14T14:17:07.142067+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/innerspace-deep-meaningful-conversations-with-brett-kaufman-185648"},"episode":{"title":"The Identity You Build Can Become the Cage You Live In | Chip Conley","slug":"the-identity-you-build-can-become-the-cage-you-live-in-chip-conley","published_at":"2026-08-17T09:00:50+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/innerspace-deep-meaningful-conversations-with-brett-kaufman-185648/the-identity-you-build-can-become-the-cage-you-live-in-chip-conley","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/innerspace-deep-meaningful-conversations-with-brett-kaufman-185648","url":"https://joininnerspace.com/","audio_url":"https://audio4.redcircle.com/episodes/26ce71be-1ba9-4563-90e1-e2e7015a011f/stream.mp3","summary":"Chip Conley bought a broken-down pay-by-the-hour motel in the Tenderloin of San Francisco in his mid-twenties, on the strength of an offhand suggestion from concert promoter Bill Graham, and spent 24 years building Joie de Vivre Hospitality into the second largest operator of boutique hotels in the country. Then the thing he built stopped fitting. He launched fifteen new hotels into a collapsing economy and found himself running a company he no longer recognized as his. What came next was a break, a second act at Airbnb as Head of Global Hospitality and Strategy, and co-founding MEA, the world's first midlife wisdom school, now on a regenerative horse ranch in Santa Fe. Chip calls the whole arc the crescendo effect. Nothing wasted. Every skill and every detour feeding the next one. You only see the shape of it looking back. As he puts it, he is all the ages he has ever been. His latest book, The Midlife Manifesto, is out now. Brett and Chip get into what it costs to hold on to an identity past its usefulness, what it means to be a mentor and an intern at the same time, the father who talked him out of writing and the books that came anyway, and the tension he is living inside now between what he calls holy urgency and the instruction he keeps receiving to slow down. Connect with Chip: Instagram: @chipconley MEA: meawisdom.com Podcast: The Midlife Chrysalis, meawisdom.com/podcast Book: The Midlife Manifesto, meawisdom.com/product/the-midlife-manifesto-book","meta_description":"Chip Conley bought a broken-down pay-by-the-hour motel in the Tenderloin of San Francisco in his mid-twenties, on the strength of an offhand suggestion fr…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":3089,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/innerspace-deep-meaningful-conversations-with-brett-kaufman-185648/episodes/the-identity-you-build-can-become-the-cage-you-live-in-chip-conley/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/innerspace-deep-meaningful-conversations-with-brett-kaufman-185648/the-identity-you-build-can-become-the-cage-you-live-in-chip-conley.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}