{"podcast":{"title":"Inevitable","slug":"inevitable-16764","podcast_index_feed_id":16764,"rss_url":"https://feeds.simplecast.com/XFfCG1w8","website_url":"https://www.mcj.vc/media/podcast","image_url":"https://image.simplecastcdn.com/images/3ed8b08f-1a64-4843-8269-ab7f8b889e30/597bb585-5f6c-4b40-bc9e-acdf0f248ed9/3000x3000/inevitable_thematic_art_8.jpg?aid=rss_feed","author":"MCJ","episode_count":600,"summary":"Join Cody Simms each week as he engages with experts across disciplines to explore innovations driving the transition of energy and industry. Inevitable is an MCJ podcast. This show was formerly known as 'My Climate Journey.'","last_synced_at":"2026-07-21T18:19:09.100464+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/inevitable-16764"},"episode":{"title":"The Electric Motorcycle That's Actually a Utility Company with Zeno","slug":"the-electric-motorcycle-that-s-actually-a-utility-company-with-zeno","published_at":"2026-06-23T09:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/inevitable-16764/the-electric-motorcycle-that-s-actually-a-utility-company-with-zeno","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/inevitable-16764","url":"https://www.mcj.vc/media/podcast","audio_url":"https://cdn.simplecast.com/media/audio/transcoded/78a97c6c-cb51-46aa-a214-65daa2554af6/a40ab607-6c05-44d6-b237-5cd4abd47ac6/episodes/audio/group/82eba772-a658-415a-9d95-67a8fcf3a417/group-item/4f05bfbf-293a-4bb8-8fd9-b39cfacc0e19/128_default_tc.mp3?aid=rss_feed&feed=XFfCG1w8","summary":"Michael Spencer is the Founder and CEO of Zeno, an electric mobility company building electric motorcycles, battery-swapping infrastructure, and distributed energy systems across East Africa. Drawing on experience from nearly a decade building businesses in East Africa and four years at Tesla during its hypergrowth era, Spencer is applying lessons from EV charging infrastructure to one of the world's largest transportation markets: two- and three-wheel vehicles. In this episode of Inevitable, Spencer explains why electrifying motorcycles in emerging markets may be one of the most efficient ways to reduce transportation costs and emissions. He discusses how Zeno combines hardware, software, and energy infrastructure to create a business that looks like an electric vehicle company on the surface but increasingly operates like a distributed utility. The conversation explores lessons from Tesla’s Supercharger network, why Kenya became Zeno’s launch market, how battery swapping and AI-powered infrastructure management drive capital efficiency, and why building hard-tech businesses may become even more valuable in an AI-driven world. Spencer also shares his vision for turning Zeno’s charging network into a distributed renewable energy platform capable of serving both mobility and grid customers. Note: Zeno is an MCJ portfolio company Episode recorded on June 8, 2026 (Published on June 23, 2026)","meta_description":"Michael Spencer is the Founder and CEO of Zeno, an electric mobility company building electric motorcycles, battery-swapping infrastructure, and distribut…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":2549,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/inevitable-16764/episodes/the-electric-motorcycle-that-s-actually-a-utility-company-with-zeno/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/inevitable-16764/the-electric-motorcycle-that-s-actually-a-utility-company-with-zeno.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}