{"podcast":{"title":"In the Making","slug":"in-the-making-7863865","podcast_index_feed_id":7863865,"rss_url":"https://feeds.megaphone.fm/OOOKK7053347347","website_url":"https://www.policylink.org","image_url":"https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/dcd337d4-4e2a-11f1-a1c9-23fa7daa38ad/image/77d851aecf05d91aae2358ceb71264af.png?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&max-w=3000&max-h=3000&fit=crop&auto=format,compress","author":"Anna Kim","episode_count":5,"summary":"This nation is still in the making. We the People? We're in the making too. In the Making is a new series from PolicyLink hosted by Baratunde Thurston, featuring kitchen table conversations with PolicyLink CEO Michael McAfee and President Ashleigh Gardere. Together, they explore how to redesign the nation so that it serves all people.","last_synced_at":"2026-06-11T16:20:15.058865+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/in-the-making-7863865"},"episode":{"title":"Rooting in Place","slug":"rooting-in-place","published_at":"2026-06-11T06:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/in-the-making-7863865/rooting-in-place","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/in-the-making-7863865","url":"https://traffic.megaphone.fm/OOOKK3705669374.mp3","audio_url":"https://traffic.megaphone.fm/OOOKK3705669374.mp3","summary":"When the federal government blocks progress, how can state and local communities advance a nation that serves all? Baratunde Thurston and PolicyLink CEO Michael McAfee and President Ashleigh Gardere explore how states and local communities can and must be the center of transformative change on Episode 5 of \"In the Making.\" They discuss why localities and states must serve as safe harbors when the federal government stands against progress, and examine real-world examples, from New Orleans' post-Katrina rebuilding to Palm Springs reparations for displaced Black communities, to St. Paul, Minnesota winning tenant protections. They explore what it means for states to operationalize the Constitution's \"general welfare\" clause, and why moving beyond incremental reform requires us to abandon the winners-and-losers construct entirely.","meta_description":"When the federal government blocks progress, how can state and local communities advance a nation that serves all? Baratunde Thurston and PolicyLink CEO M…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":1982,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/in-the-making-7863865/episodes/rooting-in-place/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/in-the-making-7863865/rooting-in-place.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}