{"podcast":{"title":"In the Making","slug":"in-the-making-7863865","podcast_index_feed_id":7863865,"rss_url":"https://feeds.megaphone.fm/OOOKK7053347347","website_url":"https://www.policylink.org","image_url":"https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/dcd337d4-4e2a-11f1-a1c9-23fa7daa38ad/image/77d851aecf05d91aae2358ceb71264af.png?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&max-w=3000&max-h=3000&fit=crop&auto=format,compress","author":"Anna Kim","episode_count":8,"summary":"This nation is still in the making. We the People? We're in the making too. In the Making is a new series from PolicyLink hosted by Baratunde Thurston, featuring kitchen table conversations with PolicyLink CEO Michael McAfee and President Ashleigh Gardere. Together, they explore how to redesign the nation so that it serves all people.","last_synced_at":"2026-07-02T22:19:40.346325+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/in-the-making-7863865"},"episode":{"title":"Redesigning the Federal Government for All","slug":"redesigning-the-federal-government-for-all","published_at":"2026-06-25T12:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/in-the-making-7863865/redesigning-the-federal-government-for-all","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/in-the-making-7863865","url":"https://traffic.megaphone.fm/OOOKK8005361206.mp3","audio_url":"https://traffic.megaphone.fm/OOOKK8005361206.mp3","summary":"Baratunde Thurston reconvenes with PolicyLink CEO Michael McAfee and President Ashleigh Gardere to talk about how to redesign the federal government so that it actually works for everyone. The episode opens with an honest acknowledgment: the federal government is failing most people right now, and cynicism feels rational. But checking out only hands power to those who want to use government to enrich themselves. Instead of just responding to those who have an exclusionary vision for this country, they talk about how do a wholesale redesign of the federal government from our own vision – one grounded in the 13th and 14th Amendments' promise that government has an affirmative duty to ensure safe housing, clean water, excellent education, and good jobs for all people. They imagine how we could become “14th amendment people” that bring this vision to life, and take inspiration from historical movements from Seneca Falls to the environmental justice movement – groups that have pushed forward transformation despite being small in numbers.","meta_description":"Baratunde Thurston reconvenes with PolicyLink CEO Michael McAfee and President Ashleigh Gardere to talk about how to redesign the federal government so th…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":1768,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/in-the-making-7863865/episodes/redesigning-the-federal-government-for-all/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/in-the-making-7863865/redesigning-the-federal-government-for-all.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}