{"podcast":{"title":"Humans of Martech","slug":"humans-of-martech-1320163","podcast_index_feed_id":1320163,"rss_url":"https://feeds.transistor.fm/humans-of-martech","website_url":"https://www.humansofmartech.com","image_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/0YE0AdjhX5bQmu9HqF_AB6lM_fcU8jAVQ5W-loHrlxA/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:1400/h:1400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS9hZGE5/NTRiZjYwMDI0NWM5/MmE4MDQ1NWJlODA3/MjUxYy5wbmc.jpg","author":"Phil Gamache","episode_count":238,"summary":"Future-proofing the humans behind the tech. Follow Phil Gamache and Darrell Alfonso on their mission to help future-proof the humans behind the tech and have successful careers in the constantly expanding universe of martech.","last_synced_at":"2026-09-15T16:21:32.290092+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/humans-of-martech-1320163"},"episode":{"title":"223: How Zapier uses a shared brain to manage AI context and skills with Lindsay Rothlisberger","slug":"223-how-zapier-uses-a-shared-brain-to-manage-ai-context-and-skills-with-lindsay-rothlisberger","published_at":"2026-06-09T08:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/humans-of-martech-1320163/223-how-zapier-uses-a-shared-brain-to-manage-ai-context-and-skills-with-lindsay-rothlisberger","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/humans-of-martech-1320163","url":"https://humansofmartech.com/2026/06/09/223-lindsay-rothlisberger-zapier-shared-brain-to-manage-ai-context/","audio_url":"https://media.transistor.fm/df1f835f/8330a667.mp3","summary":"What's up everyone, today we have the pleasure of sitting down with Lindsay Rothlisberger, Director of GTM Innovation at Zapier. (00:00) - Intro (01:23) - In This Episode (02:00) - Sponsor: Knak (03:08) - Sponsor: MoEngage (05:49) - How Zapier's RevOps Team Built Its AI Foundation (19:43) - Why Visibility Has to Come Before Governance in AI Adoption (24:58) - Sponsor: GrowthBench (25:58) - Sponsor: GrowthLoop (29:48) - How Zapier Fights Context Rot in Its AI Shared Brain (35:55) - How Zapier Governs Shared AI Skills from Review to Long-Term Ownership (39:27) - What Happens to RevOps When Everyone Around Them Can Build (45:05) - The Director of GTM Innovation Role and the Sharing Problem Nobody Has Solved (50:47) - What Keeps Lindsay Grounded in the Middle of All This Change (52:00) - Lindsay on Getting Buy-In and What She's Reading Summary : When a startup claimed in April 2026 that it invented the marketing engineer role and that RevOps professionals \"just do tool integrations,\" Lindsay Rothlisberger had heart palpitations. Her team at Zapier had been building AI into GTM workflows for years before the announcement. In this episode, she walks through the 6-component AI governance model she published publicly: a golden path to Cursor, a structured shared brain in Google Drive, data policies built with the security team, a visibility layer powered by a custom Zapier agent, a context engineering strategy that fights context rot, and a red-yellow-green skills review gate. She also names the part of the model that's still broken, and it's more honest than most AI governance conversations allow. If your team is figuring out how to govern AI at scale without killing the momentum, this is the inside view from someone who's done it. About Lindsay Rothlisberger Lindsay Rothlisb…","meta_description":"What's up everyone, today we have the pleasure of sitting down with Lindsay Rothlisberger, Director of GTM Innovation at Zapier. (00:00) - Intro (01:23) -…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":3408,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/humans-of-martech-1320163/episodes/223-how-zapier-uses-a-shared-brain-to-manage-ai-context-and-skills-with-lindsay-rothlisberger/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/humans-of-martech-1320163/223-how-zapier-uses-a-shared-brain-to-manage-ai-context-and-skills-with-lindsay-rothlisberger.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}