{"podcast":{"title":"How I AI","slug":"how-i-ai-7304222","podcast_index_feed_id":7304222,"rss_url":"https://anchor.fm/s/1035b1568/podcast/rss","website_url":"https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/pen-name","image_url":"https://d3t3ozftmdmh3i.cloudfront.net/staging/podcast_uploaded_nologo/43412682/43412682-1743896356244-0f4bd1d0374d2.jpg","author":"Claire Vo","episode_count":94,"summary":"How I AI, hosted by Claire Vo, is for anyone wondering how to actually use these magical new tools to improve the quality and efficiency of their work. In each episode, guests will share a specific, practical, and impactful way they’ve learned to use AI in their work or life. Expect 30-minute episodes, live screen sharing, and tips/tricks/workflows you can copy immediately. If you want to demystify AI and learn the skills you need to thrive in this new world, this podcast is for you.","last_synced_at":"2026-07-21T00:18:04.068136+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/how-i-ai-7304222"},"episode":{"title":"No Figma. No Jira. No docs. How Gusto built a new product line with Claude Code | Eddie Kim (CTO)","slug":"no-figma-no-jira-no-docs-how-gusto-built-a-new-product-line-with-claude-code-eddie-kim-cto","published_at":"2026-06-29T11:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/how-i-ai-7304222/no-figma-no-jira-no-docs-how-gusto-built-a-new-product-line-with-claude-code-eddie-kim-cto","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/how-i-ai-7304222","url":"https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/pen-name/episodes/No-Figma--No-Jira--No-docs--How-Gusto-built-a-new-product-line-with-Claude-Code--Eddie-Kim-CTO-e3l9dkt","audio_url":"https://anchor.fm/s/1035b1568/podcast/play/121992285/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-5-25%2F426845751-44100-2-9721922ac73d1.mp3","summary":"Eddie Kim is the co-founder and CTO of the payroll and HR platform Gusto, which just crossed $1 billion in revenue and serves more than 500,000 small businesses. Recently he did something most CTOs don’t: he went back to writing code. With three other engineers and one designer, Eddie built Gusto Cofounder, a net-new AI product, from zero code to a tier-one launch in 10 weeks. He walks through how that team actually worked, why they threw out nearly every process, and how anyone can copy the approach. What you’ll learn: The trash-can method: how to write, review, and delete a full PR as a product decision instead of a planning doc The two-tool agent stack behind Gusto Cofounder The exact “perma-Zoom” setup that replaced standups, retros, and Slack threads for 10 weeks How a designer with no engineering background hit the 94th percentile for shipping code The eval-first workflow Eddie uses to fix real customer bugs with Claude Code How a non-technical leader can prototype an idea to win buy-in, then carry it all the way to production-quality code — Brought to you by: Magic Patterns —Prototypes that look like your product Jira Product Discovery —Prioritize with insights, build with confidence — In this episode, we cover: (00:00) Intro: five people, 10 weeks (02:38) The origins of Cofounder (08:32) Inside the 10-week build process (12:50) Building with no PMs (14:38) The “trash can” method (17:15) The stack architecture (19:10) Shipping to production from day one (22:03) How a designer became a top engineer (29:05) Demo: Cofounder over text and Slack (31:45) Demo: running a real payroll (36:26) Live coding with evals in Claude Code (39:39) Recap: prototype, small team, permission (43:17) Lightning round (48:44) Where to find Eddie and Cofounder — Tools referenced: • Gusto…","meta_description":"Eddie Kim is the co-founder and CTO of the payroll and HR platform Gusto, which just crossed $1 billion in revenue and serves more than 500,000 small busi…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":3111,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/how-i-ai-7304222/episodes/no-figma-no-jira-no-docs-how-gusto-built-a-new-product-line-with-claude-code-eddie-kim-cto/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/how-i-ai-7304222/no-figma-no-jira-no-docs-how-gusto-built-a-new-product-line-with-claude-code-eddie-kim-cto.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}