{"podcast":{"title":"Higgle: The B2B Sales Club","slug":"higgle-the-b2b-sales-club-6622259","podcast_index_feed_id":6622259,"rss_url":"https://feeds.libsyn.com/480273/rss","website_url":"https://piscari.com","image_url":"https://static.libsyn.com/p/assets/9/8/2/4/9824346868e96407e55e3c100dce7605/Cover-Higgle_B2B_Sales_Club.jpg","author":"Mike Lander","episode_count":142,"summary":"This is Higgle: The B2B Sales Club Podcast, where we bring you actionable insights about sales RFPs, Sales Negotiations and difficult Procurement discussions. It's all about helping you win more deals, and hitting your sales quota. We talk to sales leaders, brand leaders and procurement leaders about lessons learnt on their journey to win more sales deals and get better negotiated outcomes. The podcast is hosted by Mike Lander, an ex procurement director and entrepreneur, talking to guests about their experiences - the good, the bad and the ugly. Please subscribe to get updates when new episodes are released.","last_synced_at":"2026-07-13T10:20:55.569065+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/higgle-the-b2b-sales-club-6622259"},"episode":{"title":"What Needs to Change in Aligning Marketing and Sales Teams with Joe Fontana","slug":"what-needs-to-change-in-aligning-marketing-and-sales-teams-with-joe-fontana","published_at":"2026-03-16T06:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/higgle-the-b2b-sales-club-6622259/what-needs-to-change-in-aligning-marketing-and-sales-teams-with-joe-fontana","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/higgle-the-b2b-sales-club-6622259","url":"https://9e87cc1f-f19f-4fe0-9a73-46635c121ed2.libsyn.com/what-needs-to-change-in-aligning-marketing-and-sales-teams-with-joe-fontana","audio_url":"https://traffic.libsyn.com/secure/9e87cc1f-f19f-4fe0-9a73-46635c121ed2/Higgle_-_Joe_Fontana.mp3?dest-id=4084452","summary":"Are we hiding behind sales tech instead of actually knowing how to sell? Joe Fontana, Advisor / Founding VP of Sales at Dextego, is a sales leader who's been building teams since the 90s. In this episode, we go straight into the tension that's shaping modern B2B selling. We talk about why sales and marketing still struggle to align, what's broken about incentives and KPIs, and why SDR teams might belong inside marketing. Joe challenges the way we think about prospecting today, especially the growing dependence on automation and AI. As we unpack what's changed (and what hasn't), we realize we're circling a bigger question about whether sellers truly understand the fundamentals anymore. From cold calling myths to LinkedIn prospecting strategies, we look at what actually works in 2026. Joe shares hard truths about technology becoming a crutch, why most sellers couldn't survive without their tools, and what it really means to \"come correct\" when approaching a buyer. We explore why big deals can't be closed over email, how fear still drives avoidance of the phone, and what buyers actually need from sellers today. Topics covered during this episode include: How sales and marketing fail to see themselves as symbiotic partners. Why misaligned metrics create tension between quota and brand building. The structural disconnect between short-term sales targets and long-term marketing strategy. How SDR teams can bridge the gap when aligned under marketing. What modern SDRs learn from frontline prospecting data. The shift from pitching to leading with curiosity and learning. How thoughtful research separates professionals from automated noise. Why over-reliance on technology weakens fundamental selling skills. The risks of trusting automation without verifying personalization. How m…","meta_description":"Are we hiding behind sales tech instead of actually knowing how to sell? Joe Fontana, Advisor / Founding VP of Sales at Dextego, is a sales leader who's b…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":1787,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/higgle-the-b2b-sales-club-6622259/episodes/what-needs-to-change-in-aligning-marketing-and-sales-teams-with-joe-fontana/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/higgle-the-b2b-sales-club-6622259/what-needs-to-change-in-aligning-marketing-and-sales-teams-with-joe-fontana.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}